no just the wrong people got the roles they got
we are both perfectly capable of realizing that julliet was a likely target from mech stand point to guaratee a kill
Lack of cohesion, no towncore, aimlessness, gonna presume itās an indicator of increased wolf influence in the thread tho this could be wrong. Yesterday was similar
That similarity describes what Iām feeling but Iām led to a different conclusion from that. Regardless, I think the solution to this it to work together and try to figure out who we want executed today. I do not want the day to go on for too long, we still have sheriff stuff and other mechanics to worry about in the upcoming days, we need time to discuss them.
I am not confident enough on believing Atlas is scum to try to organize a wagon on them. My suspicions on them are centered around on how they have played the game, what they are doing, ect, which may be me misreading their intentions and actions.
If we ignore Atlasā¦I think itās wise to actually resolve the Juno/Drekāar tonight. Generally unwise to execute the sheriff before they get a check off, and I talked about why I felt like Rune wasnāt actually a wolf. For those reasons Iām looking at Juno/X/Drakāar as possibilities rn.
Why am I town? Iāve done fudgeall.
ai/Rune always holds a wolf
How confident in tbis are you
Actually better question is probably why
I would probably kill Rune today.
I was put off yesterday evening by the way they were talking with me. They had this whole conspiracy about Kai voters, and classified me as the side of the angels for not voting Kai. But I did vote Kai, I got them to L-1 in the first attempt.
The whole case of theirs strikes me as a bit convenient, for reasons Iāll get into later. And Iām deeply suspicious of both Rune and Estelle for wanting to kill Atlas so early, denying us flip info. Id kill Estelle too
Actually, wanna see if we can get a CW
VOTE: Estelle
I laid out my reasons for suspecting Atlas. No one responded to them - and you didnāt even respond to them, you simply ignored it and focused on me finding him suspicious, instead of actually reading what I wrote.
I read your post. In this instance, your reasoning doesnāt mean as much to me as the push itself.
Atlas has the most important role in the game. I wasnāt paying too much attention to mech D1, but itās obvious how important being flipless is after even one flip. I think it would be extremely useful to scum to kill them early and deny town critical info.
Unless we are very sure theyāre scum, flipping them is a bad idea right now. Iād like at the minimum two days of flip days from them, because even if theyāre scum the data they provide tells us something. And both your read and Runeās read reads as tinfoil, not any kind of surefire case.
Iām singleing you out over Rune because you piled on. Itās exactly what I would expect scum to do in this situation, try to successfully kill Atlas the second they see another townie barking up that particular tree.
I addressed the fact that I did not want to execute them because I was not confident in them being scum, under the implication that their role is important and executing them wrongly would be bad.
Ok, I remembered that being much more aggressive positioning than it actually was. I thought you were leaving yourself much more room to join a wagon if it took off than you actually did. My bad. Iāll double check posts I read hours ago before posting thoughts about them in the future.
VOTE: Rune
Iām going to be busy for a while, Iāll be back later
Spent way too much time just thinking to myself on this game lmao
Rune and Drekāar.
I donāt, and Iām thinking about itā¦
I have a pretty comprehensive list of reads right now, which includes a sizable towncoreā¦
I donāt know, maybe Iām playing a different game from everyone else, but I really feel like we donāt need to make things so complicated socially. Iām processing the Atlas case from Estelle right now, and I do see the point about it being unfair to assume that she was trying to fish for information, plus I also think that Estelle has been towny for quite a while nowā¦ but I donāt think that makes Atlas a saboteur. Maybe Iām misclearing him but I think heās still a competitor.
Iām voting Drekāar in that duo 90% of the time unless Drekāar suddenly shows up and posts towny outside of their role. I think Junoās posting style has been towny, and her n1 action was towny as well. I did see Atlasās towncase on Drekāar about how saboteurs donāt post in the way in which Drekāar has been posting, but I donāt quite see itā¦ I think a competent wolf could post the way heās posted, and itās not like he has influenced the game in a major way.
You might be 2/2 because of this post:
I think pushing Estelle here is a gigabad look.
This is correct, but Estelle specifically said that she wasnāt planning to kill Atlas now, and she didnāt say she wanted Atlas to be vigged or anythingā¦ this yet again feels like youāre being unfair to the target of your push. Youāre doing this repeatedly.
At least you appear to be noticing itā¦
I think the turnaround from Ai.Mi was probably the towniest thing she has done all game.
I still greatly dislike the fact she sussed Rune and Estelle but tried to push Estelle instead of Rune, then backed off when caught misreading the target, instead of just pushing Rune, who I think is a saboteurā¦ Thatās why I said this:
And I realize I shouldāve explained it right away.
Maybe Iām overestimating the impact of that turnaroundā¦ this does feel like she feels like sheās out of options and is banging her head against the wall, much like Rune was doing.
Itās still mechanically suboptimal to kill Ai.Mi now, though, and if we were going to do that, we shouldāve done it yesterdayā¦
Iāll revisit this tomorrow when we have a parity check.
This honestly worries me. I think youāre town for it, but I dislike the idea of what youāre suggesting, if that makes senseā¦? Not that itās bad, it justā¦ it complicates the game. If youāre right, that would complicate the game, and itād also mean I have a huge misreadā¦
I currently lean against you being right, but this is worth considering tomorrow depending on what happens tonight.
I straight up just misremembered/misunderstood the point of Estelleās post. That was my error.
Havenāt been as dialed into this game as I want to be, and Iāve missed a couple things. I do expect that to change this weekend, and hopefully I will grow as confident in your easy worldview as you are and this is easy with a big towncore.
I actually thought Ai sussing Rune/Estelle was towny
Hm.