One Step From Eden JK9 - Town wins!

[Magnus]

Don’t actually blame me. Credit me.
The votecount is us having fun.

[Jaiden]

yeah i miss when no one was playing the game
if you need me put some milk out in a saucer or something
or vodka
or rare pokemon cards

[Magnus]

@Jaiden

Leafia
IceT

Eliza
brad
furtive

may
jarek
zorvo

How has this changed?

[Jaiden]

its changed in the way in uhhh i don’t care

[Jaiden]

its not against the rules to have a magic 8 ball make my posts right

[Magnus]

Alright. Why do you read Leafia in a positive light, if you still do?

[Jaiden]

idk anymore
it feels like she should know better but also what scum hyperdefends their buddy like that with 0 backing

[Magnus]

I’m going to mark you down as “preflipping Brad wolf”, then.

[Magnus]

@Leafia when you’re awake, I’d like for you to share your readlist. If you feel as though there’s anyone you haven’t really thought about in-depth, I’d love it if you analysed their slot as well. What do you think about Zorvo going over yesterday?

[Magnus]

@BradLand my appeal to you is still on the table.

[Leafia]

So? It doesn’t magically make it better.

@ElizaThePsycho

idk
in my experience this is a very scummy move
see: trials and tribulations

That game had abilities and more scum than just two in it.

@IcetFeelsPain

@furtiveglance what’s happening rn is that May and Leafia are TMIing that Brad will flip town and they wish to look more towny by defending them

No. What’s happening is that you’re being ultra wolfy with this post right here.

@IcetFeelsPain

Who’s getting replaced? Also does scum have daychat?

Scum always has daychat in these games.

@Magnus

This feels like theatre. This interaction bothers me.

It isn’t because I’m a villager.

@Magnus

The whole interaction feels like theatre. Jaiden’s vote on Leafia is just RVS, but Leafia makes up a reason to townread Jaiden for it — “being aggressive”, Leafia knows better —, and Jaiden knows better than to trust Leafia for this reason, and yet Jaiden unvotes and backs off. The locktown thing is a joke, I’m aware, but this doesn’t feel real from either of them.

It was 100% real from me.

@Magnus

Furtive sticking to this read so strongly makes me think he’s confbiased just a little bit, and is almost definitely Town for it.

Explain. Not sure how I feel about your entrance here because while it feels like an attempt to solve, it almost feels like an attempt to keep possible push options open.

@Magnus

Furtive is town because confbiased. Not that he’s wrong.

Things like that can be faked you know.

@Magnus

I’d like everyone else to post a readlist if possible, thanks. You can lie or change your mind later, I don’t really care.

I’ll do that later when I’m more awake.

@Magnus

This thread is dying a slow and painful death. First of all, I’m going to say we kill Brad here, and I’m not saying that just because of the self-pres vote and his notable absence today, although those are key factors. As my friend Neon would say, knowing the wagon state for D1 is important.

Slightly scummy if you ask me.

@furtiveglance

I’d guess Leafia for the really wack defence of Bradland. I know it seems really level 1, but in a 9er with a JK, scum might feel a bit reluctant to bus a teammate, even a seemingly outed one.

What’s wack is the unwarrented push on Brad just because he wanted to survive.

@Magnus

And if he doesn’t respond, that’s certainly what happened. I’m giving him an opportunity to speak up if he’s a hopeless townie, and if he’s a wolf I’d love to hear antispew. In either case, it’s to our benefit if Brad speaks up.

Brad not speaking up is the only thing giving me any doubts that he’s a villager here and if he’s a wolf, the other wolf is among his current voters 100%.

@Magnus

This is blatantly made up. Bradland wasn’t voting to save Jaiden, she wasn’t going over.
It’s also at odds with how Leafia was talking about Jaiden being Jaiden earlier, so it’s not confbias either.

I don’t exactly remember what was going on at the time of that vote but selfpresing someone is voting to kill them. Not tryng to save them. I do remember getting a bit confusedvas to how the votes were going D1 though. But I never blatently make stuff up Magnus, not even as a wolf. I call them as I see them.

@Magnus

I’d understand this logic for D2: I don’t understand this logic for D2.

You literally contradicted yourself here Magnus.

@furtiveglance

Magnus, Ice - can you vote Bradland?

It’s like…“oh yeah we all know Bradland is scum but it’s actually smarter to never vote him for VCA and wagonomics and just generally smart”

but…
but is it tho

Why do you want Brad hammered so badly?

@Magnus

There was at least one villager on Brad, so why couldn’t three come to that conclusion?
Is it because you scumread those three players independently and that’s why you’re suspicious of the vote? Why couldn’t Brad be bussed? Why do you townread Brad?

It’siterally pepega reasoning to suspect he’s a wolf here. Plus, it grew too quickly to be natural. He can definitely be being bussed here and always is if he’s a wolf.

@May

Magnus only votes when they want to vote. I vote all the time becuase it’s awesome VOTE: Leafia

Please explain this vote.

@Magnus

At least one of Leafia or Jaiden is a wolf for being too afraid to face me.

I’m not afraid to face you.

@May

Jaiden has been asleep since well before you showed up.

Same with me. Well, replace asleep with not in the thread.

@Magnus

@Leafia when you’re awake, I’d like for you to share your readlist. If you feel as though there’s anyone you haven’t really thought about in-depth, I’d love it if you analysed their slot as well. What do you think about Zorvo going over yesterday?

Hmmm, might as well.

Leafia’s readslist

Town

Leafia: Leafeons are always villagers in these games. It’s like a law of nature.
Brad: I was gutreading him town at EoD 1 and the sudden push on him just because he selfpresed suddenly seems like a super opportunistic push on a villager in an attempt to get that villager quickexecuted before they can explain themselves.

Townlean

May: The only other one seeing sense about Brad here and I definitely want her to explain her vote on me. Her explaination will help develop my read on her one way or another.

Eliza: I debated whether to put this in townleans or null, but ultimitely decided on townleans. She just has a slightly villagery feel to her this game.

Null

Magnus: Debated on whether or not to put this in null or scumlean. He seems to be solving, but it feels more like he might be trying to keep misexe options open and his reads on Ice and Furtive don’t feel real in the slightest.

Scumlean

Jaiden: I was townreading this slot until Zorvo’s flip and Jaiden’s first post of D1. It got me to thinking Zorvo might’ve been right about Jaiden being scum.

Scumread

Ice: He’s just been really scummy all game, but he does have at least a bit of villageriness to him.

Furtive: My most confident scumread. He’s been pushing blatently wolfy agenda this entire game. I’ll be shocked if this flips town.

[Leafia]

I don’t exactly hate Zorvo going over D1 as I thought he had a higher chance of flipping scum than Brad did.

[IcetFeelsPain]

Friendship ended with Eliza. Now Magnus is my best friend.

[IcetFeelsPain]

@furtiveglance

My reads right now:
Everyone

Bradland

Based.

@furtiveglance

I’d guess Leafia for the really wack defence of Bradland. I know it seems really level 1, but in a 9er with a JK, scum might feel a bit reluctant to bus a teammate, even a seemingly outed one.

Personally don’t like Leafia anymore as well but BradLand / Leafia isn’t Mafia / Mafia.

@furtiveglance

I think Bradland gave up on this one, ngl

Leaning towards this as well.

@furtiveglance

Magnus, Ice - can you vote Bradland?

It’s like…“oh yeah we all know Bradland is scum but it’s actually smarter to never vote him for VCA and wagonomics and just generally smart”

but…
but is it tho

I don’t know what any of that means but 1. Others are right about not voting them immediately so day doesn’t randomly end even tho it’s never going to happen 2. I think there’s a scum in Leafia / Jarek / May and I can’t see Leafia / May being BradLand’s partner.

@Magnus

First twenty minutes of D1, following a self-preservation vote, for pressure. I’d understand this logic for D2: I don’t understand this logic for D2. There was at least one villager on Brad, so why couldn’t three come to that conclusion?
Is it because you scumread those three players independently and that’s why you’re suspicious of the vote? Why couldn’t Brad be bussed? Why do you townread Brad?

@Leafia what Magnus said. There has to be 1 town on Brad, why can’t there be 3? If Brad can be Town who self pres’s EoD last 10 seconds and then lurks for the rest of the game then as Furt said, you can defend anything.

@Leafia

It’siterally pepega reasoning to suspect he’s a wolf here. Plus, it grew too quickly to be natural. He can definitely be being bussed here and always is if he’s a wolf.

Crazy. It’s pepega reasoning to suspect me Furt and Jarek are wolfs here because we voted someone who comes on at EoD to self pres with no regards and leaves and never comes back. How do hosts even deal with this? Do they just allow it?!? There’s no min post count here either.

@furtiveglance

I’m just concerned that Bradland will be able to literally do the same thing again today.

Not too worried about that yet.

@furtiveglance

You guys wouldn’t vote mafia if they smacked you in the face. You’d say “thanks very much” and “that was completely NAI”

True.

Readlist
Icet
Furt
Magnus
Eliza
Leafia
Jarek
BradLand
May

[IcetFeelsPain]

Honestly Brad’s scum partner is just Eliza

[Leafia]

@IcetFeelsPain

@Leafia what Magnus said. There has to be 1 town on Brad, why can’t there be 3? If Brad can be Town who self pres’s EoD last 10 seconds and then lurks for the rest of the game then as Furt said, you can defend anything.

I literally answered that. Do you really think three villagers would vote Brad for this pepega reasoning they have? Why can’t one of them be a wolf?

@IcetFeelsPain

Crazy. It’s pepega reasoning to suspect me Furt and Jarek are wolfs here because we voted someone who comes on at EoD to self pres with no regards and leaves and never comes back. How do hosts even deal with this? Do they just allow it?!? There’s no min post count here either.

You, Furt, and Jaiden and no it isn’t.

@furtiveglance

You guys wouldn’t vote mafia if they smacked you in the face. You’d say “thanks very much” and “that was completely NAI”

I’m the only one that is apparently.

Now to get a bit more sleep.

[IcetFeelsPain]

@Leafia

I literally answered that. Do you really think three villagers would vote Brad for this pepega reasoning they have? Why can’t one of them be a wolf?

I would Furt would idk about Jarek

[furtiveglance]

Among us sus

Everyone vote Bradland

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

@Magnus

@ElizaThePsycho

(icet you didn’t actually scumread me right)

Why did you care whether or not Ice scumreads you?

cuz if he did it would be completely contradictory to sheep me

[Host_Account_5]

BradLand (2): Jaiden, furtiveglance
May (2): IcetFeelsPain, Magnus
furtiveglance (1): Leafia
Leafia (1): May

Not Voting (2): ElizaThePsycho, BradLand