[PAC] Spoiled Dead Chat

[Vulgard]

there’s also the fact i didn’t really want to endgame because my role legit does nothing in most situations
at best i can exploit a dead villager’s mech info to kill a villager but at that point i out myself

[Arete]

@Arctic

@Arete

why you should listen to me

A big part of Marshal’s MO as a wolf is getting people who wolfread her voted out, and then convincing everyone, ‘oh, I just got them voted out because they were so wolfy, if only they hadn’t been so wolfy and made such terrible pushes I wouldn’t have inadvertently done that!’ (this is a strawman of how she does it but it is how she does it) and generally trying to get people to not listen to her. I realize that I am probably not going to convince anyone today but – that’s what’s going to happen tomorrow, almost certainly.

I expect that tomorrow-Marshal will point out that I have mistunnelled her before, which is true, but hasn’t been true for years, I have a better grasp of her playstyle now.

sorry but i see this,
and also the fact i meant to switch to marshal and froze
and now the fact we’re ignoring arete’s read and not killing marshal

i am ngl if marshal is a wolf and i fuck up this bad by not killing them here i am never getting over it
if marshal is town at least it didnt matter that i didnt move, and if we kill them at least we can actually think about the day 1 wagons properly

i just dont think i can rlly ignore this stuff

@Millium

@Arete

‘oh, I just got them voted out because they were so wolfy, if only they hadn’t been so wolfy and made such terrible pushes I wouldn’t have inadvertently done that!’

I dislike their shade of Arete, it was super unnecessary for what its worth

[Arete]

@Arctic

i don’t think anything she’s posted is remotely out of her wolfrange and it’s not really difficult to fake spew reads

i’m going to need something else to outweigh arete’s legacy

[Arete]

@Arctic

Summary

@Marshal

welp

marshal’s reaction to the wolfgard flip matches that of a deflated wolf who just killed their lw and not a villager who was right about their scumread being mafia

good take Arctic

[Arete]

@Millium

question are we playing a game of mafia, or are we just taking everything Vulgard says to heart, and just town reading anyone he has called a wolf, and wolf reading vice versa?

[Arete]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Howling. Alone. Sad.
I search for my pack in vain:
Am wet dog in rain.

• Hippobampoyeetus

oh my God I missed this

why does Hippo make a poem about being a lost wolf legit every time he rands wolf

[Arete]

not literally every but this is at least the third time

[orangeandblack5]

[Arete]

@Marshal

@Arctic

@Marshal

because I wasn’t wrong on, like, literally everything we know so far

where have you been correct that arete was wrong

JohnCarter and Vulgard.

@Arctic

uhh… no
arete’s posts at eod indicated they still thought JC was town, and your last posts about JC were doubting your townread on him

as for vulgard, from wolves’ point of view he was town so trying to argue that they would want you dead more for being correct by suspecting vulgard doesn’t really work

so both of these are. uh. wrong

finally someone said it

love you Arctic, sucks how you’re basically always dying n2

[Arete]

ok Laser totally is Aelin

they’re claiming notAelin but actually they totally are

[Arete]

@Arctic

i greenchecked wisdom :curtain:

this is maybe actually true

(sucks how Arctic is dying n2 regardless)

[Arete]

@Marluxion

JC even KNEW marshal was town, it’s in his iso, i remember

HIS ENTIRE REASON WAS BASED ON PREFLIPPING ME AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT

sorry I was trying not to respond to people who are saying things that are wrong and badly-reasoned but this is tilting

[Arete]

@Illwei

Marshal is by far my strongest townread

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Arete]

@WindwardAway

Hold on I had a thought
For those of you clearing Vulgard for parking his vote on Marshal

I’m sure this has already been said, but Vulgard would only be able to join wolfchat if a wolf died first and guessed him from dead chat, right? Meaning living wolves could not add him to the chat. So he did need to get a partner to die, and it would be a win-win for him if the wagons were some combination of w/v because either he’d kill a wolf and get added to the chat, or a villager would die.

So really, there’s no reason Vul wouldn’t want a partner to die, or at least there’s no reason he’d fight against the first wolf death.

go Windy go

[Arete]

ok maybe Arctic isn’t dying after all

[Arete]

@Illwei

If you dont think marshall is town tho its a wolfclaim

please stop saying things like this every time someone disagrees with one of your pet townreads

[JohnCarter]

Yea you’re right that I said marshal was a wolf of Arete wasn’t a few times

Though I don’t blame marl for not remembering that given there are SO MANY posts

Also Min Arctic Nutella doing well today

Fingers crossed wisdom continues to exhibit swag!

[Arete]

@WindwardAway

I’m still at Marshal/Moonwink being wolves

windwind

[Vulgard]

oh yeah the fact I could join the pack had nothing to do with my play

I completely ignored that aspect because as you may notice I am a mafia goon until literally all my partners are dead so lol

[Arete]

so out of curiosity why were you bussing Marshal