Paradox Hazard - GAME OVER - MAFIA VICTORY!

[Memekingpizza]

Oh i didnt like this vote flip. Something feels wromg but i dont have anything to back it up besides my own vibes about it.

[Chloe]

shes literally only been talking about scumreads on her lmfao
i havent seen anything else since she called me/leafia/tutuu v in post 224 lol

[tutuu]

ash
frost
bystander
marluna
memeking
someone
is my poe

realistically 2 wolves. 3 if lucky. if its less than 2 its so joever

[ash4fun]

@Ash

(This is not a serious vote in the slightest.)

@Ash

I would prefer to not have to deal with someone coming after me two weeks in for a joke vote by taking it completely out of context.
I also wasn’t entirely sure if people would jump on the joke with me, so it’s just a “makes my life easier” thing.

This feels very concerned about future reads on the blank tutuu vote. Not impossible as town, but more likely as scum.

@Ash

It does, but a person with an x-shot ability tends to be x-shot because their role is good and is thus inclined to use their role earlier rather than later. We’d prefer to shoot someone who isn’t basically a VT.

mech/setup talk

@Ash

@tutuu

I don’t see any reads yet

image of book

@Ash

I mean, my priority is to just mess around on D1, and I’ve been trying to get a presentation done for tomorrow, so I haven’t really engaged with the game enough.
I enjoy bouncing off of Ash and Tutuu, but I don’t think those are reads in and of themselves.

valid explanation for slank, but the content of what is there is the important bit

@Ash

I get that this is a social deduction game, but how’re ya’ll able to make reads so quickly?

This feels like wolf frustration. This post could also be made by lost townie, but I assume ash isn’t new enough for that. I don’t think there’s any other likely pov for this post.

@Ash

No?
I’m competitive, and it’s why I often death-tunnel people later into the game (see Ritual Mafia as one of the worst examples). I’m not surprised people are trying to make reads early on; I’m just surprised at how fast people will go, “Here’s my reads list of every single person in the game and what I think their alignment is.”

explanation feels post-hoc. First half is likely true, but second doesn’t really seem to follow.

@Ash

Frost seems fine from what I’ve read? Like, he’s been quite stubborn in the same way he went about in Ritual Mafia.
I haven’t fully caught up yet, but imo, Frost is null-town.

I forget to what extent ash knows he’s sussed here, but this feels likely w/w?

@Ash

Ok, I’m lazy, so I’m scrapping the Excel sheet. Here’re my thoughts:

Chloe, Tutuu, and Ash are my top townreads, the former two because they’ve consistently been open with their reads and the latter because they’re messing around. Catbae’s probably fine as well, but ¯\ (ツ) /¯; I can’t really read them well.

Townlean on Bystander: her interactions with Tutuu seem sensible to me, given that I believe Chloe is town.

Null-town on both Leafia and Frost: #72 seems v!Frost to me, and Leafia doesn’t appear to be acting the way they did as wolf in Ritual Mafia and Daeron’s BotC game (though I’m not as convinced about v!Leafia as you all are).

Null on Hazard, Memekingpizza, and Eaves. Don’t know what to make of any of them. Someone also lands here, but that’s just because they’re inactive, and I don’t want to punish them for being sick.

Marluna’s my top suspicion, but that’s less a hard read and more because they feel very cat-on-the-wall about things. Probably need to reread Combinatorics Mafia for a bit more insight into her process.

this readslist isn’t good for a number of reasons, notably towning a lot but only scumming one person. Also some very weird reads.

@Ash

Actually, better question: what’s the logic on the Hazard vote?

this feels like more ash/frost w/w. Could also be ash/hazard or neither though.

[Marluna]

I literally was watching the screen almost whole Sunday, and read the thread, but I don’t know what happened here expect Chloe rescending their read.

[Chloe]

@tutuu

if its less than 2 its so joever

no
we get there if we get there
and we wont get there because that PoE is correct imo!

[eaves]

I love that tutuu is talking like he’s for sure dying

[Chloe]

i think we’ve all been talking as if tutuu is for sure dying for about 24hr now
or at least i have lol

yknow maybe i should write a legacy just in case brb

[Marluna]

@ash4fun

this readslist isn’t good for a number of reasons, notably towning a lot but only scumming one person. Also some very weird reads.

Aren’t there more town, than mafia? I don’t see the issue having more townreads than scumreads. (he literally has 4 nulls, which together with me is 5 possible wolf candidate?

What do you want D1? The whole mafia team?

[Leafia]

I literally talked about having my spiritual vote on Frost earlier.

[Memekingpizza]

What happens on a tie vote between the two if that unlikely scenario happens.

[Ash]

RNGed, iirc.

[ash4fun]

In addition to several weird townreads, it just feels like there’s not a lot of looking for wolves. It’s also likely evidence of tmi making it hard for them to read wolfy towns as wolfy. There’s no attempt to look at the most likely places for a wolf (his nulls), and his only sr on you doesn’t seem to hold water.

[ash4fun]

50/50/90

50% chance of ash
50% chance of frost
90% chance of getting the worst outcome possible with those wagons

[Chloe]

100% reason to remember the name

[Ash]

I feel like ya’ll have fundamentally misread my approach to mafia.

[catbae]

quick legacy post

Summary

Look at my shoes. Look at the fucking belt. I wear it because I am a badass, not because I’m some kind of gay icon.

[Chloe]

If i magically die overnight in a doc dodge or something:

• tutuu is 100% town in my eyes. I have no doubts in my mind tbh. My brain has started to automatically register his posts as if they’re coming from a confirmed villager - he’s just so natural to the point where it’s nigh unfakeable. I think i’ve always(?) been right on my townreads when this happens. Trust me on it - let him do his thing and let wolves use their kill on him, and bing bam boom you won’t have to solve him yourselves. If he’s alive in lylo or has killed a bunch of villagers then you can give him some scrutiny

• Leafia is 99.9% town, do not touch her until lylo

That’s it that’s my legacy. I’m not super confident in who the wolves are exactly (like, i can’t pinpoint an exact team - especially because we have a basically-0-poster who i haven’t sorted) and I don’t want to leave anything that can be used to push agenda, so. Trust in those reads

gl gamers

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To @Leafia,

A message for you

I know you’ve had some doubts on tutuu today and i want you to know just how confident i am in this read. If I’m wrong on tutuu you can flame me postgame as much as you want. Even if we flip a villager today, it doesn’t mean tutuu is a wolf. It doesn’t mean the PoE is bad. You need to work together with him because you are the CORE - don’t let people get in your head about him. Y’all will be the glue that holds the town together i believe in u

[ash4fun]

@Ash

I’m competitive, and it’s why I often death-tunnel people later into the game (see Ritual Mafia as one of the worst examples). I’m not surprised people are trying to make reads early on; I’m just surprised at how fast people will go, “Here’s my reads list of every single person in the game and what I think their alignment is.”

This is all I could find. Could you explain further?

[catbae]

for real though if i do get got reads are in my posts but don’t treat it like a bible, use your own instincts. i’ve gotten shot in games specifically for being wrong so i’ve been trying to put less weight on doing a big list