Well, good morning, everyone.
One way or another, I’m going to have to make a decision here, and unfortunately I am currently full of nausea and classwork, so I don’t know how good my ability to do so is. I’m going to go get out of bed and eat breakfast and so on.
Alright, personhood achieved, time to play mafia.
Ultimately, the way Lemon was playing yesterday felt… apathetic. I’ve seen her being voted many times before, and every single one of them, she has this feeling of desperation, like she’d do anything to stay alive, and while I felt like she had that for a little bit yesterday, it seemed to fade away once it became clear that the last two wagons would be between her and Vulgard.
Once she places that Vulgard vote, thirty minutes to EoD, this is all she says. A snarky comment and a goodbye. She didn’t try to convince anyone to switch over to Vulgard, she didn’t say… anything game-related at all, really, and I think that’s because the wagons were between two wolves.
If she were with Nokiel, Vulgard dying would be an instant win, and she’s not even… trying to go for it? This isn’t the behavior of someone who’s losing by one vote, it’s the behavior of someone who knows they’re the more valuable death for the day, since she was the poisonous goon.
Like, looking at her posts before this point:
She seems much more motivated here (and in the posts afterward, I won’t quotewall them all) when she’s trying to argue for a Nokiel vote. Not as motivated as she is when she’s town, but still, like she actually doesn’t want to go over.
VOTE: May
Arctic said Lemon was not with Nokiel. Arctic killed a wolf yesterday while I was trying to save one.
I’m choosing to trust him.
@Nokiel Hammer if you’re mafia. If you aren’t, please vote May, but no pressure. I will argue why I am the villager.
Looking at the votecounts:
These aren’t all that informative, especially given the last game I played with Vulgard, in which the votecounts were all over the place - the wolves stacked all the time, so I don’t think Lemon and Vulgard being on the same train during D1 counts for much, if anything.
The one thing that Lemon/Vulgard leaves fairly unexplained is Lemon’s EoDs, where she seemed to be working really hard to save Nokiel… I’m going to have to look back over those specific days to see if there was any motivation for a Lemon aligned with Vulgard to do that, but not right now, as I’ve got to leave for class.
The main case for why my slot is town is the way yesterday went. Wolves tried to ML me over Lemonfairy. I’m not sure why they didn’t just vote Kanave, considering the fact I literally wasn’t awake and it would’ve been a 3/3 split (putting them at rand instead of a wolf always dying), but I just argued why Lemonfairy wasn’t a wolf based on the nightkills and it completely flopped, so I’m not going to argue that May/Lemonfairy not voting Kanave instead of me makes them unpaired. Arctic had Lemonfairy/Nokiel as not W/W yesterday and he correctly pushed for Lemonfairy, meaning he was much more correct about the game than I was.
It’s worth noting that if Nokiel is a wolf, them switching to me at EoD would’ve won the game for the wolves. It would’ve been 3/2 in favor of my wagon, and I wasn’t awake to stop it. Nokiel didn’t do that. Now, I’ve been pretty wrong in regard to “what wolves would do,” and Nokiel is a newbie, but Nokiel would surely realize that they can win the game right here and now. And if they wouldn’t, Lemon would tell them as much. Lemon was clearly trying to survive with that final, sudden push on me. Before then, she also has a push on Nokiel.
And then suddenly votes me after townreading me the entire game before then.
Goddamn, all the pressure is on me, huh?
May being on me also runs counter to their previous theories that I’m only a possible partner with Eliza. They had to vote me because I was the only available ML. I actually wasn’t, because Kanave was right there, but I don’t think Nokiel is a wolf after this and so I basically have it mechconfirmed that it’s Lemonfairy/May. You know, the team I embarrassingly tried to prove wasn’t the team yesterday. Thankfully Arctic didn’t listen.
I really don’t know why they didn’t just vote Kanave, but I guess that when Lemonfairy went to sleep and May was in the thread, May couldn’t switch to Kanave anymore or it would’ve been outing. You either bus Lemonfairy at that point or stay on me and hope someone switches, which was certainly possible, as Arctic did doubt me.
Yeah, well. If you’re mafia, I’m basically handing you the win right here. But if you’re town, then please, trust me. I’m town. I was just horrifically wrong the entire game and was torpedoing our chances of winning the whole time.
Actual hall of fame of terrible takes. This one read stifled our progress for the whole game.
And this one too. I won’t deny the fact I feel extremely guilty, but I’m not going to wallow in self-pity. I just want to show that I didn’t decide to wolfside incredibly hard and pretend it didn’t happen. I think I played an absolutely terrible game.
I just don’t want to be the game-losing ML on top of that. I’ve struggled with being able to towntell for a very long time and I’ve already nearly become the game-losing ML in a final 4 scenario. This is final 3, and last time I was in final 3, I was town and I voted a villager. This time, I now have it mechconfirmed that May is the wolf because Nokiel hasn’t hammered despite checking in after my vote. So the only thing I need to do is towntell for once despite being the wolves’ greatest asset for the entire game and towncoring both mafia.
…And Nokiel, I’m really sorry. I am. All the dead villagers I pushed, too. I feel really ashamed. I did basically everything to win the game as a wolf… the problem is that I am not a wolf.
Arctic probably thinks I’m the wolf, doesn’t he. And me bringing up his name probably makes him tunnel me even harder.
I can’t blame him. I literally tried to prevent him from winning the game yesterday, lol.
My interactions with Lemonfairy later into the day yesterday
Might help.
Also.
And these posts from May, especially the bolded, are setting up for my ML. I was the designated ML yesterday as my Kanave push failed. It just didn’t work because Arctic was there and he convinced Kanave to vote Lemon instead of me. If you re-read the way things went at the end of the day phase, you’ll notice this is true.
…Arctic stayed awake until what I believe is 4 AM in order to save the game. I’m just realizing this, lol.
If I’m mafia yesterday, I’m with Lemonfairy. If I’m with Lemonfairy, I’m already wolfsiding incredibly hard the entire game, my win condition there is to hard align with her and try to push the same people as her. Instead I’m trying to… convince her the two low-hanging fruit villagers are mafia and wondering why she isn’t accusing them? And I am prompting her to solve and she is not doing it? We are not working together at all, and I am not even throwing her under the bus, and neither is she throwing me under the bus until the very end… you know, the very end when we could just both be voting Kanave. She could be pushing Kanave. She isn’t.
Arctic’s last post regarding this situation does detail that he thinks you’re the more likely wolf.
I do get that this is an appeal, but some of this feels unnecessary, like the “if you’re mafia, but if you’re vill then trust me” seems… I get the feeling it tries to get me with emotion, it feels like trying to rush me with a promise of a satisfying victory. It feels too black and white.
What I’m trying to say is that yes, I have pushed an incredibly large number of villagers, but I also just… didn’t do anything for my team yesterday if I am mafia. The way I treated Lemonfairy helps neither of us. We did not push anyone together, I did not properly defend her (I cast doubt on her before going to sleep, why am I doing that if I’m trying to towncase her to Arctic before then?), she did not properly defend me, I went on Kanave and she went nowhere. Sure, wolves are not necessarily on the same page, but we were just not doing anything to help each other survive and win that day. I was arguably doing that by saying she is not with May, but then I turned around on that and… went to sleep. So I basically undid my own effort there.
That’s because I don’t have a good logical argument for being town. I have objectively played a very wolfy game and I have done everything to kill villagers. I am also terrible at towntelling and I have no intention of breaking the rules, so what’s left is just… trying to acknowledge what went wrong and to argue my points. Which I’m attempting right now.
I can agree with this post, she keeps going for Kanave D2 and you two have no cohesion in votes after D1
Honestly, what does make me trust you here is the argument that you and Lemon have barely worked together
Here goes.
VOTE: May