Plagues & Flowers - Checkmate (Good wins)

the consensus is “yes but either deal with it or rerack the game”

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The marioniete isn’t an outsider

From my understanding, a marioniete does not affect outsider count because a marioniete is an evil

this is true in text/forum games

for irl play though you need to give the marionette a blue token, and you need to have them sat next to the demon
which is difficult when people get their roles from pulling out of a bag
you cant know beforehand which role the marionette thinks they are

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if the Demon neighbours the 2 Outsiders in a 12p game and an Outsider becomes the Marionette, you only have 1 real Outsider

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Ah

That’s how Marionette works, yep.

As politician my main concern was making sure I wasn’t a marioniete

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In the U-Pick game, everyone decided against Amelia as the Marionette because they thought the Outsider count was fixed.

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Marionette Magician.

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marionette heretic is the worst of all worlds

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I mean, yes, but at least they know to play for evil to win anyway.

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The heretic who is winning for their team

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how about
marionette damsel
double oomfies

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Evil wouldn’t even know a damsel was in play lmao

Magician Marionette:

“Hey, you’re my Minion.”
“HAH! You fell for it, fool!”
“You’re the Marionette.”
“Magician can register as the Marionette.”
“There’s only one other Minion.”
“I don’t believe you, you’re covering up for yourself now.”

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the funny part is
you have the damsel token
someone walks up to you and tells you youre their marionette
what do you do

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You just say “sure, that’s cool. I won’t tell you my role but I’ll do what anyone else would do. Who’s the Minion?”

Go up to them. “Is there a Damsel?”

This is why I lie to my Marionettes. They can lose with me unexpectedly.

(Have never played with a Marionette as the Demon.)