Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

Throwing blank logical posts out doesn’t control thread state. Look at the playerlist, it’s practically hard to grip control on it even if a player wanted too.

There’s very few town leaders, very few thread controllers (alignment dependant) and there’s a few off-site/potential alt players, not to mention small bits of inactivity are also a problem and further not to mention that thread control isn’t a thing for wolves unless they’re fake poisoned or something and even then it’s minor.

One counterpoint I can think of to this argument is that if wolves didn’t have thread control, why they wouldn’t kill a strong player who can have thread control of can lead the town such as yourself, myself, Marl or even Wind herself, I don’t understand why they’d specifically kill either Frog or 2W1H still, even ignoring the fake poison.

1 Like

i think my approach to this ~ 8 times out of 10 is to just wholesale ignore the poisoned players and keep doin my thing. i probably won’t outguess why scum made the kills they did esp. this early. this is an interesting way to look at it though.

love it. i mayyyyy help but it’s a bit of an Exercise this early

2 Likes

I had no idea if this was directed towards me or not anyway lmao, don’t worry, my reads aren’t exactly spicy or interesting takes tbf

1 Like

quite possible considering they were set up to fight eachother
odds are they would drown eachother out and no one would care and do their own thing like its happening right now

and wdym by tmi people on the wagon assuming eli is town?

1 Like

Hmm.

I actually jumped away from Brad wagon exactly due to Windward jumping back onto it.
Like, it was 6-5 if I remember correctly and they made it 7-5, instead of saving Brad.

Could in theory be bussing, but they would be more likely to just save a teammate tho.

Ehhh… since rn I doubt I’m wrong on WA being bad due to psychological and macro level gameplay, I also think this clears Brad a bit.

1 Like

Btw. that’s why I let it rand yesterday.

There’s literally no need for “bussing” comments when there’s no scum dead, that just sounds like adding piles on piles for no reason

1 Like

for once I actually agree with lol’s post
idk what that says about me lmao

yeah sorry, I worded that vaguely
I meant I wasn’t sure that t!Ivy would imply anything at all about Frog, so I agree with you on this

2wolves is scumreading Frog, but the reverse isn’t really true as far as I can tell
so they aren’t perfectly conflicted. doesn’t that make a difference? do we actually need a third leader to follow if the first two aren’t waging war on each other in the traditional sense?

yeah i could probably buy this

I can lead the group of people who disagree, because I do not want to take myself down

I can’t tell if you didn’t read anything I did at EoD and how it relates to what I said earlier in the day, or if you’re just misrepresenting what I was doing
I didn’t want a CFD
I didn’t want to vote Eli and his wagon built up very quickly
I stated earlier in the day, if a wolf was between Brad and Eli, it was always Brad, and gave my reasoning for that
And my vote was on Brad so it’s not like I would’ve broken the tie by re-voting Brad, since I wasn’t going to vote Eli
And if I took my vote off and kept it somewhere else, Eli would’ve flipped without the need for a rand
The only way Brad had a chance of flipping at EoD was for me to keep my vote where it was on him

And despite that, I’m having misgivings today about whether that was really the right place to vote, because there is a distinct possibility Brad/Eli were T/T wagons that I didn’t stop to think about before ISOing Brad again today

I believe it would be mostly to stir up more conflcit between those two.
Either that or just being scared of them.

And since I don’t really see someone being more scared of 2Hydra than Marl or Wind or me, in that case Frog would be real poison, while fake poison was added so he doesn’t get his “all out” day.

That would require one of the scum to play with Frog before tho. And not noticing that his “whoever is loudest wins” habbits from MU mashes is not working out well here.

believe me, my iso used to be entirely wallposts but people still didn’t read them so i just stopped doing that for the most part

this game’s tone kinda… feels like someone is finessing us

2 Likes

if you think i’m having no progression whatsoever then maybe you should look at the wallpost I made on brad
i know you’re not going to look at it anyway so idk why i’m even asking you to

clearly you did the poison because you wanted to get emotions out of people.


But seriously, even with this explanation it doesn’t make sense to be worried about either of those two considering their takes were subpar at best, Frog wasn’t even involved in the wagons at EoD so the only reason I’d see for scum to be poisoning him is if Solic is scum and 2W1H probably wouldn’t be poisoned unless Brad is scum, that’s my take at the moment since I see those specific players poisoning those specific others in response (and it’s also why I’m waiting for tomorrow to try and figure anything out)

1 Like

i am

It was in response to Trochi’s point about analyzing wagons.
Which is a good thing to do if we get another flip in there.

1 Like

kind of u to own up

thanks for reminding me i never backread SoD, whoops
point 1 - yeah this is what i thought was going to happen even before the game started
mafia have the fake poison as a wifom point that they can use to sow discord in the thread, and if they play it to their advantage, they can clear one of their own slots with it
question is whether it’s too obvious of a move for mafia to fake poison a wolf because obviously the fake poisoned slot is going to be under suspicion after they survive
point 4 - i also want to look at the wagonomics but i think i’m running late for stuff so i’m just gonna finish catching up and sift through the eod wagons tomorrow when i have more time to be here, weekends are a bit hectic tbh

mmm
I have a thought about this
they don’t kill strong town players if we’re on the wrong track already and they want the town to do all the heavy lifting of yeeting itself off a cliff
in that case, wolves will not have that much impact on the thread and just allow the town to steer itself, as long as we don’t get too close to the actual wolf team

1 Like

like people that looked like they may have known eli was town and wanted a mislynch

1 Like

im finessing a way to do nothing and get credit for it

if you thought i was bussing Brad you could’ve let him flip first
if you’re going to push me, and I will flip town, you get out a townie, congrats
and then if you push Brad after that, if my reevaluation of him is better than my original read, he also flips town, and you get two townies out
so what’s your point here?