Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

[Solic]

@BradLand

Actually my Day 1 is always the strongest and then I fall off a cliff after, it’s an awful tendency.

Noted. Brad and votes on Brad have fallen off the face of the earth day 2 and it’s just weird. This has considerably moved down for me in my readslist. If anything, I also have a desire to know top wagons of day 1

[eevee]

After a night of sleep and not thinking about this game, I still think WA is a correct choice.
Am I able to logicly explain it? No.

They did confirm all my acusations. And while in theory town could do it, it just doesn’t sit well with me.

[eevee]

So I’m gonna call everyone who says to read eevee by his effectivness to join me.

Bit of gladiator like.

I want to put myself vs WA here.
I don’t think I made a mistake. But I can only explain it with intuition.

Like you can say I push thm for theirs character, but I don’t feel it. I don’t feel theirs lack of will to convince others as something town!WA is doing.

[Wazza]

@Solic

I had 3 votes on me from potentially influential players and was even tied top wagon during day 1.

Worst wasn’t there at EOD, Marl wasn’t pushing on you by the point you arrived to vote Eli and nobody really was listening to Frog due to what happened previously in the day

@Solic

Eli is not a player whose contribution in reads I value much (harsh as this is), is hard to read, was less town than Brad to me, and was an option that more reliably could gain traction to go over Brad and not potentially endanger myself.

I can understand this as I had basically the same reasoning for voting Eli tbf, my reasoning was just that between Brad and Eli one is more valued alive, I can see myself being able to read Brad and I can see Brad giving reads but for Eli he has a history of being and doing neither. @BradLand you haven’t given a single read today, don’t let me down more

@Solic

This is not true. I was nullreading you and voted you to try and spur you into action.

Then why were you still voting me at EOD just before you swooped in to vote Eli

@Solic

This is literally our full interaction. That wasn’t a vote to execute, that was a vote to go do something.

Tbf if you expect people to do stuff at the very start of the day when people are memeing you aren’t going to really get much.

@Solic

3 super tiny posts like these are not a meaningful enough interaction for you to be particularly in my state of mind. Rule of thumb: If I haven’t quoted any post of you yet, our interaction hasn’t been meaningful.

Then may I ask about these posts:

@Solic

Hmm what about Wazza? Can’t place them.

@Solic

Hmm… guess I’ll vote Wazza. Absence of towniness, not a presence of scumminess.

@Solic

Sigh… I don’t see the reasons for why Brad is scum tbh. His conclusions seem fine enough. I dislike how much they give Wazza and Wind a pass, but besides that I don’t see it.

All these posts feel like you’re suspecting me and that the vote wasn’t just a vote to “make me do stuff” since you never interacted with me again and you disliked any form of townread on me

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@Solic

This is verifiably false,

my bad, I was mostly just following VCs to see votes and must’ve misinterpreted it somehow

[Solic]

@Wazza

actually it literally is, is this a joke post that I missed completely LMAO

I really loved this post lol.

@Wazza

@Frog

No one wants your anger in the game

I don’t care whether people want it or not, if you’re doing something that will more than likely just lead to a thread derail or just a bunch of questions thrown at peoples way for no reason, I’m going to call you out on it. Answer the question if you’re going to vote Solic because of it, what would you do if you’re voted, just ignore it?

Calling Frog/Wazza not w/w.

@Wazza

@ElizaThePsycho

brad: dybu dabu caught scum

explain

@ElizaThePsycho

marl: has he even posted

yes

@ElizaThePsycho

eevee: eevee

wind: wind
wazza: wazza
frog: frog
lol: lol
leafia: leafia
me: me
trochi: trochi

bro please just give me reads

@ElizaThePsycho

the_worst: mildly townie

explain

@ElizaThePsycho

beancat: mildly townie (this is entirely a gutread)

wowee

@Wazza

You’ve clearly read my posts, I made it clear a few times that it had nothing to do with you

Point taken, I concede that.

@Wazza

/vote Eli @ShinyVenusaur
In the grand scheme of things, one is more useful alive

@Wazza

okay y’all I hate CFDs but hear me out here

/vote Gorta @ShinyVenusaur
all of his posts are literally 1 line and I just skimmed his ISO and he has literally no reason for voting Brad other than “I feel like it”

@Wazza

okay well no chance of me CFDing to Gorta
/vote Eli @ShinyVenusaur
placing my vote back here

Okay actually, I think this feels like a super townie EoD to me for Wazza, because they go through exactly my mindset except they were in a less precarious position, so they could attempt a different CFD. (This does hinge on the fact that Brad is in fact town or I’m completely taking this back…)

@Wazza

That’s odd, I’m on Wind’s wagon and yet you’re fine with voting Wind without making any comment to the fact that I’m also on the wagon

You really didn’t make such a big deal out of this Wind push really

@Wazza

Anddd high chance to be scum imo:
Solic

I’m not really surprised wagonomics would put me under suspicion here. I think your main reason you’d slot Frog as town is if I’d be scum, so I’ll point that out as a preflip (and well… not true). Haven’t you become more suspicious of Brad scum after they have tapered off a bit and well looking at wagonomics? @Wazza

Actually, I like Wazza’s ISO. They are perceptive and point out things that feel like legit gotcha’s. They appear to be very comfortable in thread. The only thing that is giving me some pause is them freaking out about my vote that really wasn’t that relevant. I’ll townread Wazza for now.

[Wazza]

@Solic

You really didn’t make such a big deal out of this Wind push really

I mostly forgot about it since literally right after I got into talking about mechanics of the game

@Solic

Haven’t you become more suspicious of Brad scum after they have tapered off a bit and well looking at wagonomics? @Wazza

I wouldn’t say I’m suspicious of him but I would say that I’m perfectly fine with him dying, less because I think he’s scum and more because I think knowing if the wagons D1 were T/T we get a lot of pretty valuable info for us

[Solic]

@Wazza

Worst wasn’t there at EOD, Marl wasn’t pushing on you by the point you arrived to vote Eli and nobody really was listening to Frog due to what happened previously in the day

Worst wasn’t there makes it worse, because then they wouldn’t move their vote. Marl could easily flip back then, especially if I didn’t do something they’d see as desirable… so that point still stands. I still think top posters have pull, multiple people literally called Frog their leader figure. I was under legit pressure.

@Wazza

All these posts feel like you’re suspecting me and that the vote wasn’t just a vote to “make me do stuff” since you never interacted with me again and you disliked any form of townread on me

I don’t recall disliking any form of townread on you from that point forward? And the fact that they feel they are suspecting you is their intent. I don’t say my votes are for pressure, because that doesn’t work… You were null to me and less town then anyone else that had posted at that point and that’s why I voted you. There really is not more to it.

@Wazza

Then may I ask about these posts:

@Solic

Hmm what about Wazza? Can’t place them.

@Solic

Hmm… guess I’ll vote Wazza. Absence of towniness, not a presence of scumminess.

@Solic

Sigh… I don’t see the reasons for why Brad is scum tbh. His conclusions seem fine enough. I dislike how much they give Wazza and Wind a pass, but besides that I don’t see it.

All these posts feel like you’re suspecting me and that the vote wasn’t just a vote to “make me do stuff” since you never interacted with me again and you disliked any form of townread on me

All those posts are still like nothing and I had quoted 2/3 of them already when replying to this…

[Solic]

@eevee

So I’m gonna call everyone who says to read eevee by his effectivness to join me.

Bit of gladiator like.

I want to put myself vs WA here.
I don’t think I made a mistake. But I can only explain it with intuition.

Like you can say I push thm for theirs character, but I don’t feel it. I don’t feel theirs lack of will to convince others as something town!WA is doing.

Hey eevee, could you expand your reads a bit more? I promise to delve into WWA forreal before EoD, but it’s making it harder to follow you if that’s your sole read.

[Wazza]

Alright I’m just going to drop this since we aren’t getting anywhere with this whatsoever so it’s not really relevant to keep discussing it if we’re just going to say the same things back and forth

[eevee]

@Solic

Hey eevee, could you expand your reads a bit more? I promise to delve into WWA forreal before EoD, but it’s making it harder to follow you if that’s your sole read.

I did explain a lot about it yesterday when I was discussing with them.

That will both explain my reads AND show you theirs explanations.

[Solic]

Oh I worded that a bit wrong maybe, but I meant reads on different players than WWA. You’ve been very thorough on WWA.

[eevee]

@Solic

Oh I worded that a bit wrong maybe, but I meant reads on different players than WWA. You’ve been very thorough on WWA.

I do.

Am I gonna share them?

Probably not.
Untill another double poison happens. Or I get poisoned myself.

You know the drill. I’m taking action only when it’s needed.
And on all other days there should be someone else to lead the town.

[Leafia]

I have someone who I wish was a wolf but I know for 100% certainty isn’t.

[Leafia]

@Solic

@Leafia

TW is an obvious choice for them to poison because Kiiruma is one of the main voices for the town, so of course the wolves would want him gone, but they wouldn’t want it to be obvious that he was poisoned. The only.thing that puzzles me is why did they fake poison Frog?

This means that both EoD and scum night actions should actually have enforced their belief that Brad was scum, making a re-ISO leading to a completely different conclusion (without Brad posting that much new content) the next day very off.

This was especially off to me, because I actually started to think that maybe I was wrong on Brad, considering Eli sprung up with relative ease and I did think 2wolves and Leafia were town, starting out this day.

This explaination of Solic’s about why I felt off kind of makes sense although it doesn’t sound like it comes from a villager. Of course a villager is going to want to make sure their read is correct when they’re feeling bad that they’re wolf reading someone they’ve been incorrect on many times before.

Yeah. I’m fine with a Solic yeet. We can get Eevee tomorrow after all.

/vote Solic @Host_Account_2

[the_worst]

Gonna tryyyyyy to wake up for deadline

[Leafia]

You’re that young? I was old when the stars were babies. I remember singing to them and tucking them in at night.

[the_worst]

you’re the leafia they used to tell me stories of?? woah

[Leafia]

There’s better yeets out there at the moment.

[Leafia]

Not really. I don’t think so anyway.

[Solic]

@Leafia

although it doesn’t sound like it comes from a villager.

Why?

@Leafia

Of course a villager is going to want to make sure their read is correct when they’re feeling bad that they’re wolf reading someone they’ve been incorrect on many times before.

Have you been incorrect on Bradland a lot in the past? I don’t know that and why didn’t you want to be extra sure yesterday while you were pushing for their yeet…?