Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

This is fair

As mafia you don’t push on Solic if you said you’re townreading him, and you also don’t push on Solic if he’s your teammate

Nobody has their vote on Solic right now so I don’t think mafia is even pushing there.

I’ll give this some more thought
I still think your interactions with her were weird somehow but I can’t quite place it

I never went after Wazza??

I wasn’t townreading him when I opened the thread and saw Gorta was fucking poisoned. I was townreading him after I saw his posts today.

She’s still somewhat new to mafia and I kinda know that she’s had a few bad experiences in games on MU? Kinda know because I was either in the game that they happened orrrr one of my friends mentioned being a bit mean to Ivy in pushing (granted my friend was mafia) and felt bad about it. I was trying to be nice to her.

She went after you.

Point still stands.

No, but on D1 you had some sort of townread on him, didn’t you? I saw it in your ISO again when I was reading through.
So you’ve gone from reading Solic as town → scum → town again, right? Just making sure I have that right.

Yeah i saw someone else mention that as well, I guess I can sort of understand why you wouldn’t want a repeat of that. I don’t think any of us were mean to her here, though, unless wagoning and MLing her counts, and that’s a normal part of the game.

True, but you made it sound like we were both at each other’s throats when that wasn’t the case.

Had him as town as I thought his Start of Day 1 was strong and him looking through a past game to fact check me was towny.
Then he dropped off and disappeared, and numerous people were stating that he might be mafia and I let them get into my head and made me waver on my Solic read.
Then today happens and I have an opportunity to see Solic posts and they appear to be positive, so I feel better about townreading him again.

That’s my progression.

No, I get that, it was fair game. Some other things happened to Ivy that got to her (this was why I was trying to warn Frog about calling Ivy an “Ara alt” because people saying “Ivy is an alt” in another game was one of the things that got to her) and she’s nice so I wouldn’t want her to be driven away with that type of stuff.

I know Wazza was going after you for a while, so I might’ve exaggerated it in my head.

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Brad, considering you can’t scumread Gorta because he’s poisoned and aren’t scumreading Solic now, who do you think is scum? I’m trying to figure out where your thoughts are at.

/vote eevee @Host_Account_2

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I’m still down for this

/vote eevee @Host_Account_2

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Something I noticed about Brad’s reads is that he doesn’t really seem to have any scumreads left
I could be wrong, but I mostly only remember him scumreading Eli and Gorta, and Eli flipped town whereas Gorta is poisoned and thereby confirmed
And briefly Solic yesterday EoD/today SoD but he went back to calling Solic town

Brad got pushed for this in a previous game I was in with him because he had like 5-6 townreads and no scumreads and he was town. I wouldn’t say this clears him on its own but I’m trying to compare it here and also think what sort of motivation scum would have for not really pushing anyone.

Antispew/avoiding spew is a possibility, stronger wolves who control the agenda are a possibility, town driving itself off a cliff is a possibility. And so wolf!Brad wouldn’t have to step it up in any of these situations. On the other hand, wouldn’t he be aware of how ridiculously bad it looks? Anyone else have thoughts on this?

I gotta go soon for a long afternoon full of meetings, but I want some discussion on this.

He does have them.

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You’re definitely right! I resented someone positing that Brad was bumping heads d1 but he has gone from like, vocal and having peculiar reads to uninterested and prodgy. if stands out lol.

Just to be clear. He was asked to indicate scum in a group of 6ish? and his result was 2w1h because of a small part of your case, and possibly me exclusively by PoE.

These aren’t reads, they’re just stances he’s taking

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Yea, it doesn’t strike me as so weird if you’ve just fallen flat on your face reads wise that you don’t put yourself out there.

@BradLand clarify? What are your scumreads now?

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Yeah, this is how I’m also seeing it

This feels like a ghost town atm, but I’m also at work. I don’t see a case on eevee. Their push on WWA was warranted in my opinion. So far we are just literally pushing LHF one after another and now it’s literally done on a slot that’s not even here. It feels gross. It feels especially gross after apparently everyone agrees 2wolves is scum, yet they are not main wagon.

Would you say you’re out of scumrange?

Isn’t 2wolves the main wagon? Last I saw, they were at 4 votes and eevee was at 2.
I took my vote off eevee because he isn’t here, but that was literally the only reason I had for not wanting to vote him.

Yeah, my productivity tends to drop as a wolf because I just lose the motivation to be in the thread but I still force myself to be there. I don’t really enjoy wolfing.

Your case just feels like OMGUS. Also no the worst was voting 2wolves before, so now it’s 4-3

Why does it typically drop?

It’s not OMGUS. I literally don’t think eevee’s case on me is in good faith.