Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

going to work
sporadic until 6cst

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So basically Iā€™m at
Wazza/+1 (beancat/Leafia)
Solic/+1 (Marl/beancat/Leafia)
Marl/+1 (Solic/beancat/Leafia)
beancat/+1 (Wazza/Solic/Marl/Leafia)
Leafia/+1 (Marl/beancat/Solic)

These arenā€™t in any particular order Iā€™m just spitting out names and seeing which overlaps pop up since I should probably be following those leads

I think at some point I ruled out Wazza/Leafia w/w but I donā€™t actually remember why

Wazza/Solic probably not a thing because of interactions with Brad and eevee

The fact that I canā€™t rule out any pairings for beancat is disconcerting

Yeah honestly itā€™s on my mind more than it was earlier since Leafia brought up the weird logic about the poison

Iā€™m feeling increasingly dead cause I have a sinus headache now, rip
Letā€™s see how long I can keep up the energy to read stuff after work today

This game.

If either Wazza or Solic flip town, then we reevaluate everyone to see if we can figure out where we misread a wolf as town. Until we flip a villager if we do though, itā€™s safe to assume that the team is Wazza/Solic.

I feel the same way honestly.

no it isnā€™t

We lynch wrong weā€™re in LyLo, we arenā€™t ā€œsafeā€ to think anything we want, town literally never win in lylo

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Wrong. It is because thatā€™s a very likely team and we have a good shot at winning even if we go to lylo I think.

Haha, Iā€™m in stitches. :roll_eyes:

I think itā€™s a valid point, considering my scum game is actually seen as quite bad compared to my town game and especially Marl should know that.

You act like itā€™s impossible for people to improve. I do think that Wazza is more likely to be a weed wolf than you are ed though.

Bleh I feel like this game would have been like 1000% easier for me if I could trust WWA before, so that is somehow making me reluctant to do it now. I have not been giving them the benefit of the doubt. They have handled my slot fairly time and time again and before I interpreted that as them having TMI on my alignment and not wanting to burn themselves on a town flip. Enough flipped town have gone to scumreading me unfortunately (although I think everyone turned around on that except maybe Kii). But nowwwā€¦ does TMI really make so much sense now? I didnā€™t have that much clout entire game (although enough to have flipped over Kii), so if they were scum, they could have just chosen not to treat me as fairly and just pushed the lynch unto me. Eevee wasnā€™t an obstacle to them, as I initially thought, so in a scum WWA/eevee world, they could more easily waltz over me. Lol and Trochi were backing me, but not super keen on it.

Like I expected WWA to act like Wazza/Marl are acting now tbh.

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When would I have even improved? I havenā€™t rolled scum inā€¦ I canā€™t even remember it to be honest, but itā€™s been at least a year, maybe more than a year and a half.

I went for a long time without rolling scum, and when I finally did roll scum, I was able to break my mets and was vastly improved. Playing as a villager is a great way to improve your scumplay Iā€™ve found because it gives you practice in acting like youā€™re in your townmeta.

A lost wolf game is not the same as main scum.

You didnā€™t bus Brad, you literally were a reason they made it out alive day 1 and day 2. Their slot was near doomed after they showed up at EoD voting Kii over themselves.

Itā€™s true that I do see you as someone that prefers townreading their partners over themselves. You did do that on Brad and eevee didnā€™t really present themselves as super town readable. I can mostly place you in a WWA scumteam and since Iā€™m just relinquishing that outcome, I guess youā€™re probably fineā€¦? Meeh. This is hard.

But Iā€™m not though so where do you go from there

The point however is that Marl has never seen me in a strong scum game (or he should be able to name at least one), so itā€™s weird for him to classify me as a strong scum.

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Hmmm, point taken.

I am losing confidence in Solic being mafia, mainly because of this:

Even though the Ivy wagon was there, mafia Brad and eevee both chose to go onto the Solic wagon. They really had no incentice to do this, as they couldā€™ve just watched Ivy go down, so I want to assume that these wagons were T/T.

I am definitely sure that Wazza is mafia here, from this:

It would have been extremely bad for a mafia member to die D1, so mafia probably put their full force behind the Eli wagon. Brad/Wazza/eevee all coming in to vote would explain that.

I have more fuzzy thoughts on these wagons as well, but that woukd require more reading. For now, Iā€™m comfortablewith a Wazza+1 team.

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