Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

No more votes should be made on Wazza until at most an hour or two before EoD.

Iā€™m being voted in pre-LyLo, Solic

I can see that. Scum could be voting you. :man_shrugging: Youā€™re not fighting it whatsoever and blaming us if youā€™d potentially be town is a bit cheap considering you also defended eevee and Brad thus far. Your legacy thus far has been ā€œidk, not Leafiaā€.

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I think Wazza is in antispew myself.

Then wait until I flip

Ugh Iā€™m getting cold feet again.

Itā€™s hard for me to see scum making an unique read like this.

Itā€™s difficult to me, because for a lot of this game I went through a similar journey as Wazza did with backing Brad and eevee. I have also literally felt like the 5th wolf though, so are they going through the same or are they just legit scum.

Their reluctance to do anything is ambivalent. It can be indeed being shown to be wrong on eevee/Brad or disappointment that your team is just going down in flames. I actually felt some more energy from this, but well we are not the same people.

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i saw someone say somewhere that wazza gives a lot more of a shit about the game as wolf
anyone wanna comment on that

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I feel like I think of like this can be team, ISO them and see, oh wait, I could see this potentially as town, hit a wall and come back there again. AAAHHH

I am currently thinking Wazza/Marl or Wazza/Bean however.

And Iā€™m getting the urge to actually give Leafia a full ISO as well, but Iā€™m out of time for today

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Thatā€™s usually a read Arctic makes but Arctic is almost never correct on it

I tried this game towards the start so itā€™s irrelevant here either way

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I donā€™t want to be here in the case we go to LyLo after today tbh

good news you might not be?

exactly why Iā€™m fine with being executed

fair
iā€™m fine with being poisoned because i get to die

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I donā€™t really have a clear read on their meta tbh. I think I only played with her when she was new as scum and am aware they have definitely improved since then.

My most memorable game with you was that that game when I was neut

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Yeah Iā€™ve heard that but I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever seen Wazza wolf before so I have nothing for comparison :man_shrugging: Iā€™ve only seen her as town and neut

But Iā€™ve definitely seen her give a shit about the game in both cases so I donā€™t think putting in the effort is wolf-indicative on its own

Btw this is exactly why I donā€™t think you and Wazza are teamed
I think it would be too obvious for both of you to defend both Brad and eevee as an entire wolfteam since it makes you look bad

Idk Iā€™m just thinking scum only wants to give up and die the day before potential MyLo if:

  1. they didnā€™t intend to lose two teammates and are at a loss for what to do because their entire team is outed
  2. they have a teammate going deep and set up to win MyLo because town is on the wrong track

In all other cases being fine with their own wagon is more likely to come from town

Any input on this?

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Ofc there can be other factors like WiM drop or stuff irl but I think most of those are NAI and Iā€™m only looking at specific reasons for a wolf to want to die here

Unpacking this analysis of me vs Wazza on wagons.

Day 1, We both look bad voting wise. Not just Wazza.

Day 2, I look okayish with eevee and brad voting me, however eevee did cast a vote that didnā€™t matter anymore, because it wasnā€™t even RNG and they could potentially have seen that (it was 1 minute apart max by timestamp) and Brad could just be distancing there as being a major wagon continuously.

Day 3, I look awful actually with starting a wagon on Kiiā€¦ Wazza couldnā€™t really have gauged the momentum that well, because I thought this was awfully close an EoD, so this votecount looks good for Wazza.

Day 4, neither of us are being done any favors by not voting for Brad here.

Day 5, I think this would reflect worse on me for being present and not yet voting, whereas Wazza wasnā€™t there.

Itā€™s weird to me how Bean took out those votecounts and came to that conclusion in my opinion. Arguments could have been made either way imo. Only to push Wazza harder and get me on board? Hmm.

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