Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

[Solic]

@Leafia

Probably trying to bus you for even more towncred. I don’t think it would’ve been possible for wolves to lose if he had gotten you executed if you’re a wolf.

Marl was right about one thing though. Heroes don’t bus.

Okay, and why couldn’t it just have been an opportunistic push to try and save Wazza for instance? I’ll remind you.

@ShinyVenusaur

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
Wazza	Leafia, beancat	2/4
Solic	Marluxion	1/4
Not Voting	Solic, WindwardAway, Wazza, Trochilidae	4

[Wazza]

If it was opportunistic why didn’t I just vote you? Why did I suggest Marl to be looked at by everyone in the thread?

[Leafia]

@Solic

Okay, and why couldn’t it just have been an opportunistic push to try and save Wazza for instance? I’ll remind you.

Not impossible but that’s something I’ll worry about if you flip town.

[Solic]

@Leafia

Not impossible but that’s something I’ll worry about if you flip town.

I’m not scum and your argument isn’t good. Ugh. You just say it’s a bus, without explaining why this HAS TO BE a bus.

[Leafia]

My argument isn’t bad and I’m saying it’s most likely a bus.

[Solic]

@Wazza

If it was opportunistic why didn’t I just vote you? Why did I suggest Marl to be looked at by everyone in the thread?

It’d be opportunistic from Marl, not you. If it’d be a bus, why wouldn’t I have distanced even harder from Marl and voted him earlier? God this feels in such bad faith.

[Solic]

@Leafia

I’m saying it’s most likely a bus.

Why is it most likely a bus?

[WindwardAway]

@Solic

Kind of sad Wind isn’t poisoned tbh

Sad indeed, I wonder what you were hoping to accomplish

[Host_Account_2]

Day 7 Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted By	Votes
Solic	Wazza	1/3
Not Voting	Solic, WindwardAway, beancat, Leafia	4

[Solic]

… this was honestly really not how I was expecting today to go.

[Solic]

I really can’t catch a break this game.

[Solic]

That’s fine, throw your logic at me, I know it’s wrong.

[WindwardAway]

@Leafia

My thoughts on that are if Wind is the wolf in you two, I think I’m more likely to be poisoned while if you’re the wolf, Wind is more likely to be poisoned, although I’m not 100% set on either of those outcomes.

How do you reach this conclusion, though?

[WindwardAway]

Ok, idk what everyone else’s reasons are for suspecting you but I’ve thought for a bit that you and Marl could’ve just been doing a distancing gambit this entire time, considering how many times you’ve escaped the execution. Also, I don’t even think Marl was an intended bus. He wasn’t in the thread for a while and as I said at EoD, literally anyone jumping to defend him would’ve looked terrible if he flipped anyway. So really, vote-wise you’re all in the same boat as far as I’m concerned.

[WindwardAway]

Now that I’m reading my post again idk if that answered your question

But I meant to say I don’t really care about the wagonomics because Marl was the only wagon

[WindwardAway]

Also I’m gonna guess beancat is probably poisoned because she was more or less clear from Marl’s flip? That’s about as far as I can think.

[Leafia]

I think you know why. I think Marl wanted to carry this game for the wolves alone.

[Leafia]

I think the only ones clear from Marl’s flip is you and me Wind.

[WindwardAway]

What

[Solic]

@WindwardAway

Ok, idk what everyone else’s reasons are for suspecting you but I’ve thought for a bit that you and Marl could’ve just been doing a distancing gambit this entire time, considering how many times you’ve escaped the execution. Also, I don’t even think Marl was an intended bus. He wasn’t in the thread for a while and as I said at EoD, literally anyone jumping to defend him would’ve looked terrible if he flipped anyway. So really, vote-wise you’re all in the same boat as far as I’m concerned.

That’s not true though, because I was townreading Marl earlier. I did think he read my opening correctly as off the town meta that they are used to off me, but as the days progressed and eevee named them as a scumread (and I still believed in eevee then) I got on their bad side. Then eevee flipped scum and I put that read away again, which only really resurfaced yesterday and I did call that out before Marl was even a serious wagon.

@Solic

@Leafia

Yes. I think Marl, Wind, and I are pretty much cleared with the Brad and Eevee flips. For now anyway.

Yea, I feel good enough to clear you too tbh, but I don’t see the reason behind Marl and it’s weird that Wind isn’t poisoned. They shouldn’t get a pass if we hit lylo.

@Solic

@Marluxion

both solic and eevee are strong wolves

Name one game, where I was a strong scum

@Solic

@Marluxion

also since eevee flipped red it is super likely all 4 of the last 4 votes on eli are just wolves piling on to try to save brad as long as possible, and it worked for them

Why does that have to be super likely? I could just be a townie that misread Brad (just like you did fyi). In addition, if I’ve been powerwolving I’ve done a shit job. Basically the only real push you can attribute to me getting anywhere would be Kii.

Also bean was just not there at EoD, so why are they no longer suspicious from this?

@Solic

to act like Wazza/Marl are acting now tbh.

@Solic

@Leafia

I went for a long time without rolling scum, and when I finally did roll scum, I was able to break my mets and was vastly improved. Playing as a villager is a great way to improve your scumplay I’ve found because it gives you practice in acting like you’re in your townmeta.

The point however is that Marl has never seen me in a strong scum game (or he should be able to name at least one), so it’s weird for him to classify me as a strong scum.

@Solic

@Trochilidae

also true

so tell me what is most likely for you

I am currently thinking Wazza/Marl

@Solic

@Marluxion you’re just attacking the stances that I’ve taken without any regard for the mindset that was behind those.

Ironically you voting me, makes me think the Wazza/Marl world is more likely.

@Solic

@Trochilidae

who do you think i should be voting instead

My gut is now saying Marl.

@Solic

I don’t think they have really re-evaluated my slot once the entire game even though I tried to reach out to them multiple times.

@Solic

It’s like they can’t look me in the eyes and tell me I’m scum in my face.

@Solic

Marl I still have my doubts on, because they have actually been observant and made some deep reads, even though that’s a really shitty measuring stick, because Marl isn’t … well like a newbie or something, so they are actually capable of stuff. They defended Brad early on and were a catalyst for a CFD unto someone else day 1. I don’t think they really did due diligence on Wind, which is weird to me. Wind is a good player, so how can you slot them as TOWN NEVER CHANGE after like 300 posts on day 1. I think I voted with Marl some times as well, which should have weirded them out on their wagon either a lot more or should have changed their mind on me. The fact that even upon being challenged on their solve by I think it was the_worst of me/eevee/wazza/Brad, didn’t show a shred of reevaluation is awful and just seems like they want to hold on to a narrative. They even self-meta’ed themselves as having more of an open mind as town and well I literally have not seen that here at all. Oh and also apparently me coming right out of the gate on day 3 pushing on Kii was 100% a bus even though they didn’t engage with my argument for that being the case at all. It was just a natural thought process, but they didn’t say why it wouldn’t be.

@Marluxion

Uh I may or may not have started the Eevee wagon to try to bait people into voting it to see reactions

And then I fell asleep parked on eevee

This is actually a fucking good post, which makes me doubt it again.

Why do I always turn into a mess at EoD ugh. I should have probably organized this before.

It’s not like I have zero progression on my Marl vote.