Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

He was on at EoD1 to push Eli over, wasn’t he?

Not really?
Marl said he townread Brad all the way up until the day we yeeted him

Why does this look like TMI
Youre saying you believe Solic is a wolf but also saying if we don’t vote him out today we’ll lose tomorrow if he’s a villager
What about if we don’t vote him out today and he’s a wolf?

Backreading Marl from yesterday to start of game:

It’s clear that Marl reallyyy wanted to get me out yesterday and just had lynch candidates of me, Wazza and Bean in that order with Bean not even really being that much on their radar. Initially I thought this would mean Marl is hedging their bets by pushing me as town, but if Wazza would actually end up flipping considering I at least already wanted to lynch them setting up a Wazza vs me scenario, they wouldn’t look terrible on Wazza flipping scum. It’d be consistent with their progression the whole game and they would have several pelts under their belt then to get further.

Is this hedging their bets though? They treat me the same as Wazza with the or statement. And scum doesn’t have the goal of looking like town, they just want to ultimately have the numbers. Brad was a doomed slot and eevee was losing the WWA/eevee thing, so it makes sense they had to be cut loose eventually.

Marl did kind of have the same treatment of me and Wazza throughout the game it seems. The Leafia thing is notheworthy, because later on they full on townread them for like having voted scum…, but in my memory Leafia totally busses if necessary. in this post it was:

which is actually not completely true, because Leafia had also been defending Brad I think during day 2. Better get on that Leafia ISO too. Reading further back.

Do they really use the thread presence they have (although it’s not that much) to try and steer it unto 2 scumbuds to save BRAD of all players.

Ironically I think Marl actually might spew Wazza town now. Genius. Aaahhh

Hmm while formatting this post a bit more, Marl did actually like flesh things out way more for me than Wazza in reads.

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@Wazza

Can you admit that yesterday you were just looking for things that would make me look bad as opposed to looking at it with the actual goal of assessing my alignment? Because I was doing that somewhat :man_shrugging: I didn’t expect to be pushed like that immediately by the whole thread and just started defending against you with anything I had in the moment.

Didn’t help that I was tipsy

I fell asleep again, sorry about that :sweat_smile:
On the topic of Leafia, yeah I remember her bussing her teammates as a wolf multiple times
Sometimes she was very convincing lol

I think it’s worth looking into what the other wolves had to say about Leafia. I know eevee had nothing to say about anyone other than Marl and me, I was his agenda push and idk if Marl was an intentional bus or just eevee not wanting to be proven 100% wrong. What did Brad have to say about Leafia?

Back to the Marl iso - it does look like Marl wanted to push you over before Wazza despite handling you in roughly the same way, but I want to look at how it compares to what he said on previous days as well. I do know that he was pushing you for longer than Wazza but I want to see when he started pushing Wazza.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

Hmmm, true. He did.

If he’s the last wolf and we don’t vote him out today then we’ll probably still win but I’m not 100% convinced Solic is the last wolf and I want the best possible chance of winning here.

This weirded me out too. It’s like he was townreading me for doing something I’m known for doing as scum.

The way I remember it, Eevee was TMIing me a villager big time. You saw how hard he was trying to convince me to vote for you with him. Hmmm, the same way he was treating Wazza honestly with trying to convince him.

Marl was treating us the exact same way as well Wind, although he seemed more certain on you. The fact he did the same to Brad is something to think about I think.

I wasn’t though, in fact I was looking for reasons to think you were town but I literally can’t see any justification for you to be town and if you are town I still see it as a better alternative to killing someone else and possibly entering LyLo that way

Well mafia did a good job poisoning the one person that can’t effectively be in the thread :frowning:

I am hardvetoing killing Solic today. In addition to Marl being on Solic yesterday, we now have confirmation that 3/4 mafia were on Solic D2, and this was in response to a Brad Wagon. This is not mafia.

With that in mind, looking at D1:

If we assume Wazza is the 4th mafia, that would mean that all four mafia all piled onto the Eli Wagon in response to the Brad wagon. This is incredibly bad play, and if Brad did flip, will practically get all three mafia caught. As such, I can only assume that Wazza is town there.

With all this in mind,

/vote Leafia @Host_Account_2

If I’m wrong as usual please kill Wazza tomorrow ._.

I’m not following you onto this

:frowning:

I agree that wazza is probably town but not for this reason
Look at how hard mafia clearly tried to prevent Brad from flipping
I don’t think they wanted him to flip at all

We never kill in Me and Wind today and I’m hardvetoing your hard veto. /vote Solic @Host_Account_2

This is most likely the final scum.

Beancat, Solic is either a wolf or a super easy misyeet that should never be taken into Lylo if they’re a villager. So it’s win-win if we execute Solic today.

Also, look at how both Eevee and Marl teated me. That’s never how you treat a scumbuddy.