Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

[Leafia]

I just don’t know yet if you’re the wolf. Sighs No matter want if we execute a villager today tomorrow is going to be hard on everyone.

[Host_Account_2]

Day 7 Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted By	Votes
Leafia	beancat	1/3
Wazza	Solic	1/3
Not Voting	WindwardAway, Wazza, Leafia	3

Ping me with errors

[Wazza]

Not on everyone, just on the player who is poisoned, I asked the hosts and mafia can’t poison themself so for the other two it’s just a game of voting the other and attempt (probably fail) to convince the poisoned person

[Leafia]

It’s definitely going to be harder on the poisoned player.

[Leafia]

Now I’m tinfoiling that Solic was trying to pocket me earlier and if he’s the last wolf he succeeded. What’s your case on Solic Wazza?

[Wazza]

I’ve talked about it many times, look through my ISO just like you’ve claimed to have

[Wazza]

look at the D1 wagons from before Marl moved his vote to Eli to EOD1

[Solic]

@Leafia

Now I’m tinfoiling that Solic was trying to pocket me earlier and if he’s the last wolf he succeeded. What’s your case on Solic Wazza?

The opportunism…, glorious.

[Leafia]

That’s not opportunism. It’s being afraid to be wrong. I’d rather get the last wolf today and no matter who it is, there’s things that don’t make sense.

[Leafia]

I wish Wind and Beancat were here right.now.

[Solic]

@WindwardAway

Thing is, Brad wasn’t interacting directly with Leafia, he was sucking up to Frog

Okay, so this triggered me a bit, so I looked more into Brad. Just ISO’ing Leafia gave me a bit of a blind spot in how freaking emotional Brad has played this game.

@BradLand

One would think, but I play the nice guy and resort to townreading the person again hoping that I can actually work with them in trying to solve the game.

They are definitely playing the nice guy

@BradLand

If there’s questions ping/quote me and I’ll get back to you as soon as I can.

So, they try to pocket Frog, me, Wazza, Trochi, Ivy and WWA, but are aggressive against Leafia, Kii and Gorta in the course over their ISO.

Pockets:

@BradLand

How would I be finessing when I stated the scumread and he accepted the idea without me beckoning him to do so?

I was trying to figure out what he was doing with the read and whether or not he was being opportunistic.

@BradLand

Solic trending more upwards for him looking back and fact checking me on what happened when I spoke about the Leafia early wagon in the light game and it being ruined by failed thread state reads.

Trochi I’ll just put a townread on since everyone else is doing it and hope for the best.

Not much else changed.

@BradLand

I think Trochi can be a leader.

@Trochilidae

Who should be the vote off today?

@BradLand

I need to discuss with Windward about this more when she’s on but yeah. She feels like strong town to me.

@BradLand

Like I stated before, the fact check to see if I was bullshitting or not felt towny as hell to me.

@BradLand

A dirty one…

You should’ve seen what she said about you in another game…

@BradLand

You’re right, I could’ve put it like that if I was thinking. I might’ve gotten annoyed and responded by being petty.

I don’t really call them “trust tells” either because they keep unpolarizing themselves more and more so even if I try to read them it ends up messing me up. So default to townread it is.

Glad to see you too in a game as well.

@BradLand

especially since she’s really nice.

@BradLand

@Wazza

I saw what happened, just take it easy. I enjoy being with you in the game, talk to me.

@BradLand

I mean…I get that…but I’m doing the same thing…and it’s me .

I’m kidding.

But seriously you can trust me if you’re actually town for once this game.

@BradLand

Don’t you dare, fucking help me.

@BradLand

Can I just do that and have it convince you?

Seriously though Windward, I am town. My solving Day 1 was my natural thought process and I worked my way to build something for this game. However I got wagoned…and been getting wagoned…day in and day out since this game started.
I exploded on Day 1 because I thought that I hit the ground running and I was building at a good pace, but for some reason players in the game started to pile onto me and people refused to townread me. I absolutely hate when I explode and do all of that shit and it results into me looking like an absolute embarrassment and a total jackass. It’s not healthy for me, it takes me so far out of the game due to the fact that I end up missing time in the thread because I’m so mad or upset at what’s happened in the game, and I’ve said numerous times that I’m trying to get myself to stop feeling like this and doing this shit during games but I can’t and I don’t know why.

Here’s the thing, you gotta look at what my reads are and how I’m evaluating. If I’m mafia, I push on Solic way harder when Frog is pushing on him and continue onwards today calling for Frog’s legacy, instead of reading through Solic’s posting today and out that I agree with his assessment and re-find him as town.

I get that I did vote Solic at EOD2, but that was because I had a gut feeling that Ivy was town and didn’t want her going over, which was why I put my neck on the line and voted Solic instead, trying to save her. She went over anyways and I’m still mad at both that and myself for not doing more, but I was so busy over the weekend and I couldn’t let my emotions that I get in the game affect my real life.

If I’m mafia, I don’t try to stop you and Wazza from going after each other and tell the both of you to get along. I know you both are strong as fuck town players that will mass post in the thread, me making you two group together to find mafia is a death wish.

Like, Windward, you GOT to find me as town here, this is all I have to let you know that I’m town.

Aggressiveness:

@BradLand

Fucking great when I’m actually trying to stick with the thread and play properly and solve, meanwhile I get someone saying “You’re doing nothing” like fuck right off.

@BradLand

@2Wolves1Hydra

I saw what you said and what you have done and overall I think a lot of it feels fake.

You’re getting angry at me for saying you could by trying to chain elim Eli and then Gorta but that’s only because from your perspective, you should be ‘read as town’ (no matter your alignment this is your goal after all)

And by me saying what I’ve said, I’m making it clear that I don’t think it’s the case. I think your reactions are fake and you’re annoyed that this is the third vote on you. Because of the fact that you already said you townread Wazza (As imo you (as wolf) did it because she’s a strong town player and you couldn’t really mis-elim her should she get going) so you’re kinda stuck at this time wagon wise.

Think to your ‘Eli might’ve TMI’d Gorta town’ thing for a second with me. What to me could this look like you’re doing? Logically, who would you be eliminating first if Eli could be potentially TMI’ing?

To me, the answer to that is Eli. And from my perspective, that could be town. Then what? You’d theorize ‘I could be wrong about Gorta, maybe my initial scumread was right’ and then go for them.

So how the fuck does me saying it’s a chain elimination seem unfair? I can understand why you’d do it as town. But the fact is, I think it’s more likely at this time that W!You is seeing an easy late game mis-exe and trying to get it. As I tried doing that to Gorta myself.

How in the world does it feel fake?

I’m getting angry at you because you keep spinning these fucking narratives about me, mis-repping what I’m saying, blatantly twisting the timeframe in events that happened, and fucking insulting me on top of all of that by saying “I’ve done nothing.”

Also the Wazza townread has basically been because I’ve become pretty good friends with Wazza in the past few games, and I’ve ended up townreading her in every game and tried to work with her…which she ends up flipping mafia and I look like an idiot.
I tend to just default to townreading my friends because I want to be town with them and try to solve. Even if they snow me in games before, I’m still going to go right into townreading them. It just happens.

@BradLand

Your loss. Must not like having friends.

@BradLand

/vote:Gorta

Kill this fucker.

@BradLand

I SCUMREAD HIM AT THE START OF THE DAY!

THEN HE VOTES ME LIKE HOURS AFTER WITH THE SAME REASON THAT 1 OTHER PERSON SAID AS I HAVE A WAGON ON ME ALREADY!

Fucking bullshit I OMGUS’d him when I had him in the first fucking place.

/vote:Gorta @ShinyVenusaur

@BradLand

@Frog

Tbh, if you’re Town, I think you’re just going to death tunnel me every game we play together on the off chance I rand wolf so you can feel good

She’s done the same to me every game. It’s fucking gross and disingenuous. I don’t get what I did to her in the past, especially since I was nice to her to start but she just scumreads me every game and never actually tries to work with me.

I read through your argument, Leafia loves to lie about what people do during games. We had a big argument over this on MafiaColessium and I called her out on her bullshit. She doesn’t learn.

@BradLand

Again, you’re lying right now.

Link me to the game right now that I was mafia and you were town.

Actually it was cut short like way too fast with Leafia. This is like very different than the magnitude of Kii’s emotional outburst.

@BradLand

@Leafia

I’ve been treating you the same way that Marl treats me. I’m so sorry. Can you ever forgive me?

Just stop doing this shit and I will.

Sorry I went at you again as well. I can’t keep my mouth shut with things that bother me.

[Leafia]

We need to decide who to execute and we need to do it now. We have less than an hour left. @Wazza
@WindwardAway
@beancat

[Wazza]

why didn’t you respond to me telling you to read

[Solic]

In addition, I think that Marl would never have supported this quickbus on eevee if the scumteam wasn’t there to benefit from it. They would have tried to slow it down.

@lol

/vote eevee @ShinyVenusaur

@Leafia

Eevee isn’t town here. He hard defended Brad when it was obvious mafia wanted to save Brad. /vote Eevee @ShinyVenusaur

@Trochilidae

/vote eevee
based

Like lol:

@Leafia

I do agree that we should let Eevee speak at least once here but I don’t know why you’re still considering that he could be town after he open wolfed yesterday.

TMI Leafia back?

@Leafia

I’ll be surprised if anyone defends Eevee honestly because that would be a death sentence. I fully expect his scummates to push him hard too here.

@Leafia

There’s no way they seriously think they can save Eevee after Brad’s flip and I’m fine with hammering Eevee right now honestly.

@WindwardAway

I’m gonna wait just in case eevee has something illuminating to say
If he’s avoiding spew he’s probably not gonna say anything useful
If he’s town maybe he’ll have something useful but I doubt he’s town
And if he’s town I know for a fact you’re going to turboyeet me but I don’t have the energy to bicker with eevee for another day tbh
He can just say whatever shit he wants and if the only thing he says is that I’m mafia I will hammer him

@Marluxion

/vote Eevee @ShinyVenusaur

@Marluxion

boom bye scum

@Marluxion

if it isn’t and i have to sit through yesterday redux while we wait to yeet eevee for 48 hours id probably rip my eyes out

@Marluxion

@WindwardAway send

@Marluxion

eevee to the shadow realm

@WindwardAway

You know what
Yolo
/vote eevee @ShinyVenusaur

@ShinyVenusaur

Not Voting Solic, eevee, Wazza, beancat 4

Since Wazza wasn’t there, … I was probably wrong on that front, so … I’ve changed my mind.

[beancat]

…wow that’s a lot of pings…

I’ve been very busy today, sorry for not being active.

@Leafia

@beancat Please get your vote off me al ready. The right choice is to execute within Wind/Wazza.

…Weren’t you saying to execute Solic?

[Leafia]

I read some of it, but there’s so much to read that I’m not sure I can read it all before EoD. Nor do I have the patience required to do so.

[Solic]

@Solic

Like Leafia makes consistently weird comments that indicate a lack of TMI. Their pushes, I can sorta see make sense from a Leafia mindset and they were one of the driving forces between Brad and eevee flips. Marl’s I’m not really attributing to them. Together with a seeming lack of TMI, makes the hell bussing theory not seem correct.

I think the lack of TMI doesn’t really ring true anymore. I didn’t take into account Leafia’s brazenness that they just displayed just now again with the constant voteswapping between Wind/Wazza as soon as I showed appetite for that and I was gaining some thread control again. Even more important, the fact that I wasn’t scumreading them anymore… just led them to townreading me. How convenient.

[Solic]

Lastly, Leafia emphasizing a lot of times “they would never do this poison” just makes me think they took that into account a lot while deciding who should get poisoned. Like that thought never occurred to me tbh.

[Leafia]

That was before. This is now. I’m really conflicted on who’s the wolf here. Solic had a very villagery moment earlier too. I mean, if he’s the last scum, why not just agree with you on executing me? Instead he starts defending me. I do know it could possibly be a pocket attempt, but it doesn’t feel like one.

[beancat]

/vote Leafia harder

Not changing my vote.
If your opinion could change this fast, why were you so sure early on? Why were you calling for a quickhammer?