Players' Choice Invitational - Town Wins!

goodnight foru mafmia thread

Hi everyone, sorry I haven’t been in thread for a long time I was hanging out with my gf (:heart_eyes:). I’m here now tho and want to say that I’m sorry I got Crich executed. I felt really confident on that read and got stuck up in a lot of conf bias with it (crich must be scum voting town wagons, crich must be scum bc they lied about their numbers) and that was just a really bad way to play around it. I’m gonna try to improve my reads and not give up, but I’m going to 100% make sure I don’t get stuck in the tunnel I found myself. Now onto my wallpost of backreading

That’s what I thought too, I think it must’ve been bc Min is consesus town which mean’s scum maybe aren’t PR hunting?

I mean I think its bc im still easily one of the most sus people alive, and leaving me alive makes it easier to get a ML off

Mentioning this now as well, Atlas got pretty annoyed when people scumread him in SCP and when he was eventually executed so that may be indicative of alignment as well? Not sure

? what did this mean and why is this combined with a vote?

look it would’ve been a really good outcome if he was maf.
but uh he wasn’t so

This is actually a good point on vulgard, the “i’m voting with my village friends” makes it seem like they weren’t using their own reasons and was instead just sheeping other people

thats a fair point on why he shouldve lived
but u also didnt mention this yesterday

Yes, he might’ve been a bad wagon, obviously was as he flipped town, but you can’t just go “ah this game would’ve been better if hes alive.” It might’ve been a mistake but hes dead now, we need to accept that move on and use the information that we gained to hopefully do more.

would like to mention that my most liked by actually has a higher amount of wind likes than eli likes which I never thought was possible

I thought more people were gonna CFD onto me and, like I said, I was maybe the worst execution out of all 4

yea probably, I don’t think i hid it well and honestly im just down to openclaim at this point bc fuck itttttt

this is dumb reasoning
you agreed that crich shouldve died at the time, but thought that ash or squirrel were a better vote? Why not push them instead if you scumread them more?

i tried my best to not make it obvious but I guess im bad at that

Thought about this, what do we do if we have Ranta do nothing? I mean I feel like we should kill them but at the same time we gain almost 0 information from their death. Then again we do know who didnt push for them to die and stuff along those lines. Eh we’ll figure it out later

thats literally just not true, you can go back and read there were like 6-7 people there (probably more but im misremembering)

yea

ooh! ooh! I was there! I’m down to think ur EoD was bad!

ranta is here :crab:

I think its actually fair enough not to know bc it did change a lot and I didnt even think crich would die until the final VC was posted and he was at the top

this is true I remember this

Quick thoughts about Vulgard. I think they have a lot of weird posts and a lot of weird interactions with other people, and people make good cases on them however their responses usually feel really solid and towny, which makes me think they’re more town? Maybe I’m being stupid? I don’t know, but I’m going off of that for now.

I still have like no idea why you’ve townread me almost this entire game to the point that I think you’re scum for it.

he was a wagon yesterday???

this entire readlist sucks and the reasoning doesn’t make sense and it all seems scummy can we kill atlas pretty please i know I have a bad track record of this stuff but
cmon

what if it’s an athiest game, what is thats the big twist

this is true and I won’t be doing it.

who you are as a person doesn’t relate to how you treat my slot? What is this response?

I’m literally town and thinking about my plays from an outside perspective I would 100% think im mafia here if I wasn’t me. Thinking about how I played in wolf that game:

  • I slanked quite a bit D1
  • Pushed a towns person and tunneled them A TON D1 (it was you in case you forgot) with some really dumb reasons that all relied on you being mafia

I don’t know why you’re townreading me like this when you have almost 0 reason to, and you also haven’t explained any of your read, only saying that “you see contrast”, not noticing how my scum game would’ve defintley improved, maybe not a lot but a bit, or quoting any of my posts in this current game that make you think im town.

I don’t know why anyone would read me town right now.

what about sorc17, yknow u were town that game, i was town, I lasted until f3 and maybe a super duper awesome play that lead to a team winning

did he???

tldr it was full of conf bias and uh, wrong

dont feel like quoting posts but why is ranta being so weird, coming in with an out of the blue read and then getting mad when people ask them for reasoning? If this is their town meta than :skull:

I think you need more reasoning if you’re gonna come out here with this read after not mentioning it very much before

ah, so thats what you think

don’t worry I wont be mad if you kill me

Anyone feel like Ranta was told in their scum chat to post more and so they started doing that but don’t have the content in it? (take this read a bit small it is conf bias I am realizing im getting ebtter)

i feel like you’re taking what was a joke a bit too seriously. You can scumread her off of it sure but I think you also need to consider the world where its simply a joke

ok now im gonna give a readlist to make it more clear where my thoughts are. I am not gonna provide any reasoning within it but if u want more u can ask (will label which ones I have like nothing for)

Townread
Wazza

Townlean
Gorta
Eli
Marl
Sulit

Null
Wind
MOOOOOOOSe
Blizer
Arctic
Ash
Squirrel
Vulgard

Scumlean
Atlas
Ranta

Scumread

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hi im here now and im BIG vibing

if u just want a TLDR bc ur lazy and dont wanna read the whole thing the first lil paragraph and the readlist at the end basically sum up most of it. If you can, still try to read it all

actually scratch that im gonna go take a shower and then respond to stuff when I get back

Idk if it’s ai, haven’t been wolf in a while

And once i say your evil and I die everyone ignores me and I was right

read my posts smh

read what I said after instead of seeing one thing and deciding thats it

then stop acting like what you think a wolf is

getting deja vu here

i don’t remember that and we lost

yeah you ignored it

ybw if you think your acting like mafia
Stop acting like mafia???

your deathtunnel on me is basically because you think me having a slight townread on you is bad

Here’s how much of this is similar to what I said
Wazza is exact same, Marl and eli is same, vul is same, gorta is one category off, wind is one category off, moose is one category off, bliz arc is 1 off, you townread sulit for some reason (why) Squirrel is one off, ash is the same
Basically the only thing pass being 1 near it is sulit

and you called my readlist garbage

this is the only one where our reads are largely different

i forgot that I already took a shower today, and only realized after I got out of the shower
At least it was relaxing I guess

bc I thought ur reasoning was bad

yeah IM trying, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t notice that by thinking of things from an outside perspective

bro I literally put you at a scumlean what

alright let me go to the past and change how I played
I’m trying to make up for it now and I was trying to make up for it at EoD

awesome argument here

your clearly not

That’s a weird kill. Ik nka on n1 is usually useless but I’ll have to take a look at their reads.

Assuming they were killed for reads. idk what else tho

you’ve been pushing me since d1

at least I gave reasoning

You’ve stated you think your posting is bad, what’s your opinion on your posting currently?

also can you point out specifics
just saying so doesn’t help

hey atlas I saw ur posts and all and was responding to them but I think this is very important

You aren’t on this VC at the end of the day

Would you happen to know who you were voting at the time?