Players' Choice Invitational - Town Wins!

who would you have expected to die instead

Wazza I’m so sad ur mafia idk if I can bring myself to vote such a cute pfp :pleading_face::pleading_face:

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I’ll have a cuter pfp post-game dw

but… you never said it. you argued with me for like 30 posts, never once showed signs of making a read on me, and… now, in hindsight, you’re saying you “always townread me.” but when i show a post that puts it in doubt, you go “you townread me during / after our argument.”

the issue is that i don’t see signs of you developing a townread on me. at all. you question the logic of my readlist but not the reads themselves. it all feels like the fight was picked for no reason other than to start a fight, and you never intended to evaluate me.

i’m pointing to our argument because you just implied it made you develop a townread on me. well, that and my ash d1 stuff, but if the ash d1 stuff was a factor… shouldn’t you have had a townread on me before our argument? ash was already outed then.

i find your read on me hard to follow and your explanations only make it more confusing.

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Someone universally townread like me

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hammer wazza
discussion time over

seriously speaking
@Wazza @WindwardAway

do you think one of you is being pocketed by the other
i dont think either of you have expressed this concern, which is especially weird seeing as blizer claimed and then died, even tho without wolves knowing his role i would have expected me/wazza to die

Because I didn’t have care or reason to say it especially considering I was still annoyed about your comment about Sorc17, besides I had a neighbourhood chat anyway with a person I trusted to give legacy reads to in the case I died so it’s not like I had to say it in worry that I’d die and stating it when I’m never killing you anyway is absolutely pointless, give me a good reason why I should have to say it, give me a good reason on why I should say I think you’re Town

i’ll get to that.

Wind never stated anything about worrying about being pocketed by me and Wind was extremely worried I’d die (Neighbourhood chat things) and I personally have been saying I’ve been worried about being pocketed for a while now, I barely even had Wind as a Townlean until I discussed with them again in the neighbourhood last night so it’s not exactly like I’m not thinking about it

i did not get any impression of wazza townreading vulgard yesterday
where tf did this come from

are you arguing that telling people what your reads are is a bad thing? …as a counterpoint to me saying your read on me seems strange?

I also have very little confidence that Mafia Wind in place 11 chooses Neighborizer of all things and then neighbourizes me

you literally just didn’t read my post

this is a post

i mean, you said verbatim:

and the obvious answer is: because you should tell people what your reads are. at least that’s what’s expected of most players.

that’s why i asked if you were arguing in favor of read obscurity, here.

it’s strange to me. you pick a fight with me, get a townread on me off that argument, and then never say you got that townread. only when i prompt you to do so today do you say that you got a townread on me from that fight.

and i don’t understand your reasoning why hiding the read was +ev or whatever.

I did question the reads themselves though, what are you on about? And the fight was continued since I wanted to pressure you as much as I good since I thought you were scum during that argument until I began to think you’re town.

And it did make me develop a townread on you, a minor one as I have stated at least a million times already, but still a townread and like I said, I only began townreading you from the whole ash thing in the night because me and Wind discussed the slots before I stated the 5 I wanted to be added, this lead us to discussing the slots ash spewed and you were one of them if you really want the exact story of why I townread you for that

But I’m in a neighbourhood, I can give legacy reads in the chance I die or if I survive I can just say them the next day? Literally none of this matters to me when I have some form of backup

I was trying to leave my reads mostly obscure but they were pretty obvious tbf.

Why are you only calling out yourself by the way? I also told you to remove Marl yet I still put Marl in players I’d like to be added.

I don’t know if it was +ev or not, I just knew it was pointless for me to even state it, I’m also like 90% sure I was asleep for the rest of the day from our argument but I still probably wouldn’t have stated anything

did you guys know one of the wolves is a slanker

interesting discovery i know

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Sulit is almost always mafia so I’m not surprised at all