Players' Choice Invitational - Town Wins!

[Marluxion]

this game has singlehandedly killed my faith in the democratic process
people should not have choice

[orangeandblack5]

@clonedcheese

Fiest of all, apologies again to @orangeandblack5. Whoops.

Frankly cloned it’s probably for the best lmao

[katze]

okay i just checked the spreadsheet

im very surprised nobody picked jailkeeper given its one of the strongest roles in the setup

[Marluxion]

why did neither of the hosts go “hey you need to submit what role you’re going for” when both vulgard and i clearly misunderstood how the setup worked

[orangeandblack5]

@clonedcheese

I used no WotM this game - and that probably hurt. Lots of comments about this in the spec chat, but gist is extremely swingy setup was extremely swingy, and I did nothing about it. Sorry mafia for the 6-2 PR split.

Fwiw I had a long convo with Fire about this but you literally cannot WotM the PR distribution in a draft setup

What you gotta do is let them talk and coordinate their choices

Then any imbalance is squarely their fault

[orangeandblack5]

It’s often the case that you assume the first place picks the best role

[katze]

yeah i mean 1/1 picking deathproof which is commonly negative utility as town is a shocker too but

[orangeandblack5]

@Arete

this setup sucks to wolf in

speaking as someone who has wolfed in it the only reason we had a chance was that half of the villagers just picked fruit vendor/neighborizer so a bunch of the PRs didn’t get picked at all, with people here not doing that it would have been very challenging for wolves to pull out a win (not to detract from town’s play – many villagers played well, I just don’t want the wolves to feel badly about it

As somebody who has absolutely steamrolled town in a draft setup

Arete doesn’t know what they’re talking about just play better

[orangeandblack5]

Bro we had first draft pick fruit vendor p sure

[katze]

fruit vendor is based tho

[orangeandblack5]

Bro I stg

[orangeandblack5]

mf

[orangeandblack5]

@Marshal

but I thought vul saying ranta had to die while scumreading other people was even more pepega so it was tough in the end

This tbh

[Arete]

@orangeandblack5

@Arete

this setup sucks to wolf in

speaking as someone who has wolfed in it the only reason we had a chance was that half of the villagers just picked fruit vendor/neighborizer so a bunch of the PRs didn’t get picked at all, with people here not doing that it would have been very challenging for wolves to pull out a win (not to detract from town’s play – many villagers played well, I just don’t want the wolves to feel badly about it

As somebody who has absolutely steamrolled town in a draft setup

Arete doesn’t know what they’re talking about just play better

we won my dude, this isn’t ‘salty wolf being salty about a game from a year ago’

[orangeandblack5]

Just have more fun then idk

[Arete]

you also wolfed in the larger version of the setup, which might be more balanced? not sure

[orangeandblack5]

I mean I didn’t ever look at the actual roles on offer here and obviously that plays a huge part in the balance but that game was genuinely very fun excluding some clashing with the hosts

[Litten]

I didn’t even check roles until n1 lol

[Atlas]

I thought it was just pick two numbers lowest unique number wins

[Arete]

13v3+1

N3 Vig/Vengeful
MoDet/Illusioner (1-shot anytime vigilante that makes another player appear to carry the kill)
A-cop/Tracker
3-shot Commuter/3-shot Watcher
Doctor/Roleblocker
Universal Backup/Role Cop
Neighborizer/Fruit Vendor
Jailkeeper/Tracker
Governor/Deathproof