Pokemon Xros Wars Game Over Mafia Victory

[Jar]

i have read his posts. they seemed towny but i will do it again

[Jar]

distancing would be the word mafia players would use

[Dum]

ight time to get wagoned into nothingness

[Dum]

Jar is town. I have convinced myself.
yes i know i had a “green check” on him.
No, the green check was not real.

beeg post warning

Chapter 0: Jar meta
I had an interaction with kingtroll and Neon on day two which was pretty eye opening.

@KingTroll

new players + bad players (who are both much harder to metaread due to not having a reliable meta)

They pointed out the Jar meta was not very good because the one source we have of it Jar was confirmed IC extremely fast, while this game they were constantly under pressure. This was a very fair point, and it made me unconfortable about the read we did have. But what if we could change that? Which brings us to:

@Dum

I hate this game, Jar is actually town

I got an green check on his ass, UNVOTE

This green check is completly made up. It does not exist. I do NOT have any investigative pokemon. But it does acomplish my goal of getting pressure off Jar. We immediately get reactions from Neon, Lucyfer and Jar. Im going to write up on what i tougth about Neon and lucyfers handling of this later, but right now thats not the point.

Chapter 1: Jar as a innocent child

In pathological we get this:

@Jar

i feel so free right now lol i can say anything i want without having a fear of being suspected

@Jar

yes but i still had a fear that any of my future posts might be very sus

After this it was almost like Jar got released of a post restriction or something because this man went all in trying to solve

@Jar

i guess il be sticking to what i think
VOTE: Vulgard

@Jar

@May

Kanave has not many posts but from what she does have I see an undue focus on both Eliza (early on) and Nokiel. I think her slot is the one I understand the least and want to see the most pressure on at the moment, I want her to commit to some arguments.

i am not sure about kanave being wolfy. the only reasons you gave just say that she is hyper focusing on nokiel and eliza and you dont understand their standpoint. we dont see her too much because they are busy i believe

@Jar

i feel like now the rest will follow and vote kanave since there are 3 votes already which could end up in another town player vote out. but its fine because i dont have strong a reasoning to prove she is towny

@Jar

at this point i am almost certain vul is one of the wolves. imagine the embarrassment if he isnt

@Jar

Ok so is anyone here

@Jar

Alright so if i vote vul and no one else would be voting him, it will lead to a randomized lynch which idk whom

@Jar

And i think eliza is less likely to be a wolf than vul but more people would be voting her

Chapter 2: Jar as an "Innocent Child"

In a remarkbly similar chain of events, we get:

@Jar

Some people here were born to hate me it seems like

@Jar

I am born wofly

@Jar

Ok we are sure that dum is too town right

@Neon

@Jar

Some people here were born to hate me it seems like

I’d love it if you moved the game forward in any meaningful way now that your a green check. Thank you.

@Dum

anyone arround?

@Jar
@Neon

@Jar

what do we all think of leafia? i am about to draw some information from his posts

Starting discussion, good sign.

@Jar

okay i will see their voting pattern and a few other things

@Jar

have to see that

@Jar

i will compare their posts with zorvo after this. rn i will be only looking at leafias posts

@Jar

@Leafia

@Jar

first things first, no one is scum to me. i can almost never be so sure about straightup calling someone a wolf however i always have slight leans. it is natural for someone who is not too sure about something to change their opinion. i just start losing faith in my own weak assessment when everyone has a different point of view than mine, like now.
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This sounds the opposite of villagery to me. This might be a better vote than Eevee for now honestly. Everyone has to have some scumreads.

how does this post look the opposite of villagery to you?

@Leafia

This is something I disagree with. I think he’s been villagery enough for now from what I’ve seen. Reminds me of Hippo actually.

@Leafia

@KingTroll

i’ll thunderdome an ic and win babyyyyyy i learned a trick or two from wade
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I honestly don’t think this ever comes from a wolf.

this kind of makes me townread him but i am still not sure if kingtroll is really a villager. he seems towny for townreading me however its weird if he is a wolf and townreading me.

@Leafia

I think if Eliza was a villager, Raj would still be alive right now and I’ve seen Eliza as a villager and she isn’t like this as one.

VOTE: Eliza

98.5% certain this is a wolf.

i am not very sure about eliza. i townread her posts but she has claimed to be joat. if she is joat and a villager then she must have saved raji from dying but anyway this is not so concrete of an argument. so i dont make anything out of this vote.
so in short i am neutral but i found it scummy that leafia has been on me for pretty much the entire time. now i am interested what their next move would be

I know some people are gonna call his reasoning “bad” or “superficial” but considering their other town game also has this and the fact he is resonably new to social reads, i think we can give him a pass.

@Jar

ok so i believe eliza is safe

@Jar

oof i actually forgot leafia is zorvos replacement

If im wrong about this jar and he is W, never paired with leafia IMO

@Jar

but that does not mean stella is towny to me. when raji accused me, stella voted me without saying a word so that feels wolfy to me

This is probably not damming for stella, but i do like that jar found this.

@Jar

i was with w!may in my previous game (pathalogical invitational), and they were making the same kind of posts as these.

Love this post. Im not sure if w!Jar brings attention to his past game.

In conlusion

I think Jar is completly inside his town meta here. The only thing to keep in mind is this read might be backfiring on me is if some wolf in wolfchat with Jar somehow realized what i was doing, in which case this wolf would most likely be Lucyfer. This could be possible, as Jar just did a bunch of nothing for ~1h after seeing he was greenchecked, but he could have been backreading or busy just as easily.

[Lucyfer]

The dude try to psyche himself in to his own cop check is something new i need to add to plays i will never understand, mafia notes lol

This is not meant to be shade, but its really confusing me, like i believe that Jar is probably town regardless of your alignment st this point, the problem is now you, but my i itial iso of you had you as town and maybe i should just stick with it

I feel like i need to just be a bit more confident or else this game will spiral out of control

The problem i have with mechanically heavy games especially with so many people losing pokemon, is i have no idea when the game could just fucking end, and that makes it so hsrd to slowly try to understand this game

[Lucyfer]

@KingTroll
Wth are your reads? This needs to happen sooner than later, i want less of these catch up posts, and more readable thoughts from you

[KingTroll]

@Lucyfer

Wth are your reads? This needs to happen sooner than later, i want less of these catch up posts, and more readable thoughts from you

i’m going to catch up on the last 12 hours before i make a readlist but thanks for asking

[KingTroll]

speaking of which i’m going to catch up on the last 12 hours now

[Dum]

@Lucyfer

The dude try to psyche himself in to his own cop check is something new i need to add to plays i will never understand, mafia notes lol

I was really hoping Jar would be scummy because as i have said Jar town makes this game hard.

[Lucyfer]

Im giving u till the end of this day phase yo give me reads, or ima probably just consider you outted, cause uve just been a bit too hedgy for my liking, and im not at all certain how you got to Jar being townie

[Dum]

@Lucyfer

the problem is now you

understandable

[KingTroll]

[Dum]

@Lucyfer

The problem i have with mechanically heavy games

i love mech games tbh. I like having to figure out what world we have been thrown into piece by piece, and having to account for roles makes it interesting imo

[Dum]

we need to talk about this. First off, when you say last night, do you mean you gave the switch command on day 2?

[Dum]

@Lucyfer

The dude try to psyche himself in to his own cop check is something new i need to add to plays i will never understand, mafia notes lol

just to check, you do realize the check was fake right? I feel like i have to make this as clear as possible otherwise this play goes -EV, Jar is not mech cleared

[Lucyfer]

Lmao

[Neon]

@Dum

Jar is town. I have convinced myself.
yes i know i had a “green check” on him.
No, the green check was not real.

…

[Dum]

Vulpix has fainted! - Lucyfer

Corviknight has fainted! - Leafia

Dewgong has fainted! - Jar

Steelix has Fainted! - LLD

[Dum]

Stellaluna has a poisoned pokemon.

[Neon]

VOTE: Nokiel