Poor Approximations of Catgirls - Thread 1

[nightingale]

well that explains that problem
still need to read alana though

[Wisdom]

@alana are you the cop?

[Wisdom]

Otherwise my cover has been kinda pointless.
I thought she had checked Marshal but saying Marshal is the “third strongest town read” made me start doubting.

[alana]

I think Wisdom’s reasoning for the targets isn’t bad at all but I can’t see how you first have us both as scumreads, get a result that we are the same team yet now suddenly think we are both town without considering teammate equity between us.

/vote Wisdom @Nyarchmage

[Wisdom]

Imagine me eating popcorn right now
I’m not
But it’s my current mood while watching the thread :3

[Nyarchmage]

TARGET	VOTES	VOTED BY
WindwardAway	3/11	LASERpointer (#5769); Marluxion (#5340); min (#6364)
Wisdom	3/11	alana (#6624); Hippopablompoyeetus (#6296); Wazza (#6312)
Mistyx	2/11	Illwei (#6141); Millium (#6103)
Squirrel2412	2/11	Mistyx (#6146); Wisdom (#4893)
Illwei	2/11	Arctic (#6478); nightingale (#6556)
BS4215	1/11	Marshal (#5244)
Wazza	3/10	bladescape (#5963)
bladescape	1/11	nutella (#5100)
Marshal	1/10	WindwardAway (#6114)
Not Voting	4	BS4215; Kyubey; Moonwink; Squirrel2412

[alana]

To clear this up I will say that I’m not, I simply changed my mind on Marshal after D1 and then later the Vulgard flip.

Got ninjad’d by your posts

Think your thought process re me thinking I checked marshal made sense from your PoV.

/unvote

[Wisdom]

Btw whoever made sure wazza/marshal needs one less vote to keel over is probably unaligned with blade.

[Kyubey]

Yeah like

@Vulgard

@Arctic

Internet feels like eevee tbh
From grammar and claiming european

i had the same thought
he feels like
huh
if it’s eevee, he feels exactly like he played in a certain fol game from 2020 which @Marshal might remember; a game where he roleplayed as someone from an East Asian country and then broke character to insult Marshal’s way of playing mafia before subbing in his main account (yes, this actually happened)

his question to Hippo earlier felt like a 1:1 repeat of the question alt!eevee asked Marshal in that game

Why did Vulgard decide to ping marshal here

[Arctic]

alana posts about marshal

@alana

Yea i don’t see what is scummy about Arctic’s posts. I have had plenty of games where I got scumread for trying to get the game out of fluff phase but then it ironically got the game out of fluff phase just not in the way I intended

@alana

I don’t read Arctic strongly as town but he hasn’t pinged me and can I just say that I think the reasons he is being scumread for are ridiculous, hating fluff phase and trying to get things going should be entirely NAI

@alana why did you never like, actually call out the person scumreading me for bad reasons (marshal) or use it to give a read on them

@Marshal

well i strongly dislike how he is repping the reads on him (not just mine, but especially mine) because he doesnt address the reads themselves and kinda just shades the people who have them or imply that they are a joke.

His “well if you are wolf you just lost the battle because people will remember my reads” post is especially bad because it implicitly implies that JC and min are town. Which is bad because

• He doesn’t think they are town
• he also historically is extremely bad at making pre-flip spew reads on me. I didn’t really want to bring this up because I believe he can improve but I strongly struggle to see a world in which he looks at the last game he was w/v against me, called me not w/w with the ENTIRE WOLFTEAM, and then goes “yeah i totally got her with this one”

The rest of his posts are pretty lackluster, I truly dont see where he got a lot of his reads and while he has a generally roundabout way of playing I can usually see threads of trackable reasoning whereas here I just don’t see that.

@alana

how does this relate to your tunnel on Arctic? do you still scumread Arctic?

@Marshal

alana - gth w, seems to have their own kinda narrowish worldview and has spouted quite a few anti consensus takes (or at least takes that were anti consensus at the time) but nothing actually done to change the threadstate

@alana

This is usually exactly how players that first play with me on my own site read me lmfao. I have deja vu

tbh atm I’m not even that certain of my reads (have also mostly more talked about things being NAI rather than coming to conclusions) also not sure how to change the threadstate by myself if people don’t agree with me

doesn’t even try to combat the read, just laughs at it

@alana

I’ve felt like the scumread on Arctic was too much based on interpreting literally everything he did as coming from a scum mindset. But didn’t think it was bad in a scummy way

What actually pings me most is that Marshal now says ‘I only scumread arctic and vulgard because I was annoyed’ while Marshal was the first person to push both of them (am more sure that marshall was the one to push arctic first though, less sure about vulgard)

@alana

Am sus of marshall for a reason I just mentioned in response to Arete’s case

@alana

If anything I do think Marshall has been trying to form a towncore this game instead of just tunneling those townreads are half the playerlist

@alana

tbh I feel like I get ignored as well (though that was mote of a feeling earlier on this day)

I think Marshall was actually wolfreading Arctic and Vulgard, not Arete at the time for being annoued with them despite the fact that Marshall themselves started both pushes.

I am conflicted about voting Marshall too

@alana

I think Arete is probably town but the only thing that’s actually pinged me about Marshall is that one post and think the rest of his posts aren’t actually scummy

@alana

Can you comment on if Marshall jumping to conclusions without considering the other possibility is something they have done as town?

@alana

Oh you confirmed it in the post after that

(the funny thing is i answered this in the post she replied to (not even the post after like she claimed) so she didn’t even read the post lol)

@Marshal

Ideally I should be vigged, not doing so is antitown. If not I will fight to live but I won’t use emotional manipulation or make it all about me, if i’m obviously gonna die I will quietly leave a legacy and fuck off.

ftr I think it’s bad play not to kill me if arete flips town and vice versa, a basically lock wolfread from an extremely competent player should not be let live.

@alana

wouldn’t it still be better for a maf to die instead of you in a world both you and Arete are town?

@alana

I don’t know either of them and I like Arete better than Marshal

@alana

marshal made one post that pinged me and it was the ‘I only scumread Vulgard and Arctic because they annoyed me’ which wouldn’t have pinged me otherwise except that the context is that I remember Marshal being the one to be the first to scumread both.

@alana

my reads rn

most to least suspicious
sus
Millium
Squirrel

sus with doubts:
Marshall
Mistyx
Arctic
Wisdom

idfk:
Kyubey
Wazza
Nutella
Moonwink
Nightingale

illwei
bladescape (don’t think it’s smart to read into mech stuff in bastard and on play I feel like he did nothing out of his scumrange)
InternetStranger

these people are probably not scum by vibe and dont ask me concrete reasons:
Hippo
WindwardAway
Min
Marluxion

GTH town:
Arete
Laserpointer
John Carter
Vulgard

@alana

I want to unvote [squirrel] now but I don’t like Arete lynch either

notice how alana says this at eod but doesn’t vote marshal or even float the idea

@alana

FYI I very much do think Marshall isn’t neccessarily scum just because he was in a thunderdome with someone who flipped town and think Marshal should be read on play, I have recently lost a game because I was in a massive thunderdome with someone, everyone decided to ‘if one is town lynch the other’ well we were both town and scum won.

but Marshalls flip would still have been more helpful to me personally than Arete’s even if Marshal had flipped town now I basically learned nothing from the lynch.

@alana

because I townread Arete more than Marshal

@alana

Marshal was very likely to be lynched yet Vulgard decides to leave his vanity wagon to vote Marshal despite saying earlier that he would always vote JC. Feel like this is anti-aligned because if Marshal is scum then Vulgard had every reason to just stay on his vanity wagon

…though he later switches to Arete

I can’t say who I think looks bad based on this ISO but have some ideas of who isn’t affiliated with him.

I think Arctic, Min, Wisdom and maaaybe Marshal are spewed from this

@alana

I actually liked your EoD and today liked that you think Marshal vs Arete could be TvT rather than just wanted to turbo Marshal like some others.

@alana

think marshal is just town atp. The frustration with Arete reads as genuine

@alana

Because it sort of pinged me that you said that squirrel wagon was set up to avoid dealing with Arete vs Marshal yet then one second later decide to attempt a cfd on Wisdom though I have some doubts because Marshal makes a good point that you might actually be spewed from Vulgard interactions

@alana

he didnt even park on Marshal he switched to Arete.

However I do think Marshal is just town atp

@alana

most to least sus

Nightingale
Wazza
Bladescape
Mistyx

laserpointer
Windward
Squirrel

InternetStranger/forgot name of who is replacing them
Kyubey
Illwei
Moonwink
Millium

Marluxion
Nutella
Min
Wisdom

Hippo
Marshal
Arctic

think Wazza’s recent posts have been awful, also feel like I might be townreading Squirrel solely because of his readslist at EoD while they now have posted less content now that they aren’t on the radar anymore.

Idk why I townleaned windward anymore

@alana

like this doesn’t add up.

I actually think in a world where Marshal is scum Vulgard took the opportunity to switch to Arete rather than that he intended to bus.

If scum!Vulgard’s motive is to lynch scum!Marshal then why would he risk making himself look bad by switching to Arete?

neither a world where Vulgar’s intention was to bus scum!Marshal nor a world where he wanted scum!Marshal alive makes sense because Vulgard could also just have stayed on his JC vanity wagon like he said he would and no one would bat an eye for him not voting Marshal at EoD whom he had voiced as a scumread.

@alana

I have them as third most town currently, the only people I think are town more are Hippo and Arctic. Arctic for spew + flavor and Hippo mostly for the flavor stuff + he made a good point that if Hippo is scum he of all people would have picked up on Vulgard’s soft.

I think if Marshal is scum Vulgard’s plans make no sense in either world whether he wants marshal dead or wanted her alive.

If Vulgard didn’t want to bus Marshal he could have easily stayed on JC.

if Wind’s theory is correct and Vulgard wanted to bus Marshal why switch to Arete

I’m curious how your role works if you got a green check on both me and Marshal but probably don’t discuss this tbh

(lol at the bottom line)

@alana

why did you decide to compare me to Marshal?

@alana

but then why did he move from JC in the first place? Vulgard did say he was just going to vanity tunnel JC.

I don’t know the exact VC of when he voted Marshal

@alana

also @wisdom why can’t me and Marshal both be mafia if you scumread us both?

and why did you never mentioned the check on Marshal yet mentioned a check on me?

nothing here looks unaligned
a lot of things look aligned

[Kyubey]

Post credit team is squirrel marshal Alana misty moon

[Arctic]

yeah that’s another thing

i love how you’re doing this now even though i went in depth on vulgard spew at sod and pointed out literally of these things and said it really looked like they were softing to marshal in particular but i was just shut down by the argument of vulgard leaving his vote on marshal

[Kyubey]

maybe replace squirrel with hippo
I just put him there cause I’m looking at who he pinged all game cause that seems really important

[Kyubey]

@Arctic

i love how you’re doing this now even though i went in depth on vulgard spew at sod and pointed out literally of these things and said it really looked like they were softing to marshal in particular but i was just shut down by the argument of vulgard leaving his vote on marshal

if it makes you feel better I did not read those posts nor do I have any intention to read them
if the game isn’t easy I’ll start reading peoples in later days but this seems like free money so

[Wisdom]

Ignore my retraction of fps claims.
If Alana is a wolf then Marshal is always a wolf as well.

[Arctic]

oh great i am glad i went through all of those interactions for nothing thanks

[Arctic]

what

[Kyubey]

I telepathically posted a post that I decided not to post that said wisdom shouldn’t have dropped the claim into wisdom’s brain

[Marshal]

Because I was the person eevee did all of that too. I think it’s a direct attempt to make me townread him

[Wisdom]

Oh you didn’t no worries!