Nuto wants Achro / YBW
Magnus also wants YBW
Magnus wanted lol
Iām giving YBW the time to make a post
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Because it would lose us the game.
if YBW is a hit it wouldnāt lose us the game and I trust you carry in F3
Would you like detailed reasons
Oh. After ybw
Thats fine
I feel strangely pocketed
I am 100% always the best shot in f4 imo
One on one always bet on achro
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ok ima ctualyl gonna do shit now i PROMISe
my heart hurts and i just drank an entire baja blast, the perfect enviornment to play FM in
Every pairing possible (fmpov)
My methodology is to primarily search for interactions between the two people in question. Iām not looking at how to read these people, Iām trying to see whether or not itās likely they are paried with certain people. This will involve me looking (or skimming bc achroās iso is like 500 posts long) at somebodyās ISO and finding all clear interactions/mentions of the other person in question, and looking to see how their reads develop on this person in specific.
Cat/Achro
Looking at Catās ISO (ftr Iām just gonna quote every post I see, if there is a specific one I want to comment on I will quote it outside of the hidden part.
Cat's Quotes featuring Achro
for context, madeline townreads achro at this point and this is a reply to madeline
also a reply to madeline
referring to achro in these posts
never follws up on that last question
Cat was talking to magnus who asked for Littenās read on achro when liteen asked maguns for their read on achro. This is catās response
worth noting kiiruma was scum (this is mainly a reminder to self bc its been a while lmao)
readlist, dont known if achro/lolās slot is townlean or like nulltown or anything but worth adding ofc
reply to achro about kiiruma
reply to achro talking about madeline being shot
responding to a post from madeline asking for top town
reply to achro
I find this reply excessively strange bc this is the second time achro has asked for a wolf game from catbae and catbae just replied again with one. Not that like, replying is ai or anything, but i find it weird achro ended up asking twice
for context, madeline townreads achro at this point and this is a reply to madeline
also a reply to madeline
These are strange to me at this point, catbae had not voiced a read on achro yet, but he seems to imply that its obvious through reading his posts that he has a townread on achro, while also calling Madelineās tr on achro fake.
this post reads to me as someone soft defending both kiiruma and achro by calling kiirumaās thought process real while also saying achro is town bc of how thread is handling him. Neither of these things are explicitly stated, but they are implied.
thereās also this post immediatley after which is strange bc it seems they have voiced multiple reads on achro but state they are āundecidedā on achro.
their next post also has this
seems overall decently wishy-washy on achroās slot for the first day period
Strange readlist as theyāve expressed mutliple doubts about achro up to this point, even saying they have reservations about them, yet they put them in the upper spot of their readlist, (4 from the top)
also kiiruma was top townread which is 
but thats not what this part of the post is about
I find this reply excessively strange bc this is the second time achro has asked for a wolf game from catbae and catbae just replied again with one. Not that like, replying is ai or anything, but i find it weird achro ended up asking twice
ok iāve gone through almost every one of catbaeās posts that involved achro (quoted) and on catās side I can defintely see a pairing here. Cat was very wishy-washy when it came to achro at tjhe start of the game before sticking him as top town for almost the entire rest of the game until like now ig? Can defintely see cat paired with achro when looking at catās posts
now itās time for achro! (im skimming this shit theres so much)
ACHros' posts featuring catbae
unrelated but we really shoulda huh
mentions and interacts with catbae very fast into the game, not w/w indicative by itself or anything but worth noting
idk if this counts as a readlist since it says power rankings but thats what im percieving it as
townreading catbae
referring to catbaeās comment on them finding my answer sus to the question of magnusās alignment
again defending cat
replying to catbae
reply to catbae
he said it again ladies and gentleman
Achro seems to be citing love is war like extensively which isnāt like w/w indictiave by tiself or anything but I think is interesting given the context of the rest of the interactions. It allows him to express doubt by always saying ābut he could be a good scumā while townreading him.
starts expressing doubts on catbae mid d-3 before sultan shot
achro asks for another wolf game despite previously having one
this is so so strange to me considering cat had already linked a scum game! i dont know what purpose these posts serve when he already had a scum game of catās
I need to stop biting my nails, if u see this btw quote it and yell at me not to bite my nails (also to prove u read my post bc if u did ur town and ily)
āim unaligned with everybodyā - Achromatic, lying out his ASS
reply to cat
again trying to influence shot away from cat
these are some of the first times achromatic has had like an actual conversation with catbae, and it is in LyLo.
theres also this but idfk what this means lmao
first post that set off alarm bells to me, seems very weird to be posted and it isnāt too much better in context
itās worth mentioning at this poitn im at about post 250 and ive found that achroās itneractions with catbae donāt really involve back-to-back conversations like his interactions with most other people and that they mainly rely on him giving a few comments about catās alignment, mainly that he townreads cat, pinging him to ask questions, and thats about it. It kinda reads like a scum trying to force some interaction between their scum buddy to make it seem natural.
also wow more than half of his posts were d1
strange post imo bc previous to this point he has been expressing a townread on catbae mainyl reinforced by meta and vibes, and it seems very strong considering it has held up to almost all questionig by others. Weird that he is now in the hero shot section.
Hate these posts honestly, madeline expressed the idea that achro/catbae were wolves and this was his response. Very w/w indicitave imo. I was already p sure achro/cat were the team but like Wow, this guy claimed he wasnāt aligned with anybody!
Achro also LOVES to interact with the current shot holder. I genunily think a majority of his posts are replying to the current shot holder about his own reads and what he thinks to try and influence their reads.
Achro seems to be citing love is war like extensively which isnāt like w/w indictiave by tiself or anything but I think is interesting given the context of the rest of the interactions. It allows him to express doubt by always saying ābut he could be a good scumā while townreading him.
achro asks for another wolf game despite previously having one
this is so so strange to me considering cat had already linked a scum game! i dont know what purpose these posts serve when he already had a scum game of catās
overall yeah, achro can 100% be teamed with catbae, like VERY very easily. Achro, depsite hyperposting (literally 1/5 of thread is achro) and interacting a ton with the shot holder and other people has rarely interacted with catbae only keeping him at an extremely stagnant townread almost the entire game. Catbaeās interactions with achro arenāt amazing either with his unwillingness to really state a direct read, going back and forth, until finally deciding to townread him and sticking with that for a majority of the game
Iād give this team a
8.3/10
for how likely I think it is
theyāre also both kinda scummy and donāt have a ton of consitently towny posts. Achroās constant interaction with the shotholder yet yearning to be shot read as weird to me as well and it more so seems like a wolf trying to influence their shot choice than anything.
Thereās also that whole āwhy didnāt achro get the gunā thing but i honestly think thats kind of an unfair reason to scumread someone so im not gonna look into it much.
Lol/Achro
oh my god its been an hour and im only a third of the way done with this post
fml
i already typed out the thing talking about how i cut the secondpart bc i didnt wanna do it and im NOT EVEN CLOSE to being done still i hate life
time to rise and grind ig
i could be studying for apush, or doing homework, or something productive, but im playing mafia
anyway
lol''s posts featuring achro
oh my fucking god he has 200 posts AHHHHH pls tell me u and achro ust like nevert talk
god dammit they interact
could be distancing but not indicative of a ton imo
replying to madeline concerning scumraeds
referring to achro here
this clarifaction reads unpartenerd to me as well. Imma be real im p sure im conf biased in like every read I make bc I do think achro/cat is the team but like u all see it too right
I like all of the inetartons between lol and achro so far they seem geunine
could be TMi, first thing i found that hard aligns lol/achro
referring to CD, but a reply to achro nonetheless
says to shoot achro at EOD, sarcastic but I donāt think a maf would do that to a scumbuddy esp achro
this is unrelated but i didnt se ethis post until now and like, i feel called out
achro is lolās biggest TR bc of kiirumaās flip, this does align them
this is also unrelated but ive played a bit of demoncrawl and really enjoyed it i didnt know u guys talked about it :(
EXPRESSES DOUBT ON ACHRO WHEN ITS LIKE COMPLETLEY UNNECCESARY
baller post, I dontā think scum would point out these flaws in their partners unless a buss was the plan which it doesnāt seem to be considering lol had achro as his top town before this. Hard unaligning post
this follow up is good as well
not as good now still good
these are a good series of unaligning posts imo, i feel like scum buddies would use this as a chance to build interactions and lol just saying āok andā like the chad he is. also the three word explanation of poe to achroās seemingly genunie question? already these two are lookin unaligned 
i went and ate dinner in the middle of this, should be fine but like worth noting
EXPRESSES DOUBT ON ACHRO WHEN ITS LIKE COMPLETLEY UNNECCESARY
baller post, I dontā think scum would point out these flaws in their partners unless a buss was the plan which it doesnāt seem to be considering lol had achro as his top town before this. Hard unaligning post
Follow up is good as well, but then he accepts achroās read which doesnāt make it as hard an unalign but its still a really good series of posts imo
this series of posts unaligns a ton as well imo, the way they interact here just doesnāt really seem like how scum would interact. Theres an unspoken edginess between the two that is hard to miss, and not really how two members would interact.
Overall I donāt think lol was as towny as I thought he was. He was a lot in the early game but not as much in the late game. Still townier than achro tho and def not as aligned with him than catbae going off of Lolās perspective. I think this is an unlikely team but it isnt like 100% not a possibility. Onto achros pov
JUST KIDDING i am skip;ping it bc I want to get his post done and he has a lot of posts
also achro/lol had a lot of back to back interactions so i feel comfortable
and also another excuse that you can fill in yourself bc i dont wanna iso another person and I still wanna do catbae for the third section
OVERALL just looking at lolās posts? Iād give the achro/lol team a
2.4/10 for probability
Defintely possible strictly speaking, but i donāt think its anywhere near as likely compared to Achro/Cat
Cat/Lol
ok
you just gotta do cat
then you can do other things
you got this ybw
:joy_cat: (aka a cat loling(aka posts of cat's concering lol))
i think i rememberd seeing more interactions here but that was like an hour and a half ago now so lets see if my memory holds up
i couldāve just like, isod each player and looked for indvidual scumminess
but NOOO im FANCY i gotta look for INTERACTIONS AND DO 6 FUCKING ISOS WHY DID PAST ME THINK THAT I WAS GONNA DO THIS SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THIS SHIT
whack post concering lol ngl
catbae has liike barely commented on lol outside of this
aka hasnt
this is urking me maybe mi wrong
ok im def getting urked he at least interacted with achro a good amount before this even if it was wishy-washy, he has barely interacted with lol besides saying he is town
then again i think i did like the exact same thing and thought the samer thing
nvm this isnt that weird
response to lol calling catbae consensus town
im actually having doubts cat/lol could be a team
mention of lol that expresses doubt on the slot
this came from nowhere, like actually no where, catbae has not commented on lol from when he was their top townread and now he is bottom 3. this is excessively strange.
fair enough reaosning honestly and its consistent reading back, kinda unaligns him tbh bc like that is what town cat would think on lol
maybe it isnāt unaligning but im treating it as it is
theres no specific posts that stick out just yet bcit is like a lack of posts about lol that is a problem. Catbae does not comment on lol anywhere near as much asI thought he did and I think im realizing i was confusing him with achro. His reads on lol change very fast within a few posts with very few comments inbetween them. For example, (actually lemem quote a post rq)
lol was a top town a while before this, and was townread before these 3 posts,
that is all catbae says (click expand on the one that just says hm btw)
this reads as very strange to me bc theres such a lack of progression there on the read, it seems to just kinda go place to place.
ok
i donāt know what to think anymore
i thought i was really conf biased on cat/achro but looking at these interactions they are just strange. theres not a ton of progression here. cat eventually decides lol is scum and sticks on that. it is for fair reasoning though (from their pov) so I can see the unalignment
id rate this like a
6.4/10
i can tell im running out of effort to want to do this but like
something is off about cat/lol
i cant tell what it is
i still townread lol
i dont know what tot hink
originally this post was gonna have two parts, onelooking at pairings and onelooking at interactions with dead scum but uhh the first part took like a long time (shouldāve probably assumed that when im isoing people 3 people twice) so iāll do that later. (probably) (maybe) (i think I will) (i dont think i will)
this post took me like two and a hlaf hours so you better be happy with it
i think the most likely team is cat/achro? but i honestly kinda underestimated the viability of a lol/cat team, which I think is ebntirely possible.
Lol/achro is just unlikely. You can look there, but the interactions were far more unaligning compared to the ones between cat/lol or achro/cat
and if you havenāt noticed by now there is a common denominator; cat. Cat aligns with both lol and achro in a fair way, and I think, looking at interactions, cat is the best shot for today. Cat also has been kinda meh overall, i only really townread them bc of an argument we had but that obvi none of my reads were good bc i did townread all of lol/achro/cat and at least two of thema re wolves, so yknow, u win some u lose some
And now, I appeal to Icet
please read this post in its entirety. Ive had multiple moments this game where iāve felt you misunderstood my posts, and while i did think that was a purposeful misunderstanding previously i knopw understand that it was accidental and likely also results from my lack of communication skills. Try to read every part of this post, and if you have questions please ask them so I can clarify! If you donāt want to read it all, bc itās a lot, i would say suck it up but like if u actually dont have time or something just skimming is fine. I know I am town, and I think i am onto something here. At the end of the day, it is your shot, but I think you should take all of the time you have and try to make the most informed decision. If you miss shoot, its ok and no one is gonna be mad at you for it. I trust you to make the right call <3
alright im done cooking
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im gonna go now i dont wanna think anymore (will be like monitering thread but i will in no way be actively posting unless it is questions)
Holy shit i wish i had that much WIM right now. What a legend.
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If its cat and not ybw then ybw is a legend tbh
whatās WIM
āwant it moreā which is some newfangled word for effort/will to win basically
wdym newafangled ive seen it since ive started playing FM
im town and you know it scumlord
I just posted 1300 times in another game that just ended
Fuck yes. Lets go 2/2
Me being wolf is inpossible. Cd didnt replace 5 minutes into the game
Checkmate atheists
hey achro do you believe in Cat / Lol teams