Thereâs no fucking way I was wrong on Guava nooo
Guava fucking pocketed me and Eliza was trying to do the same thing earlier.
Iâm glad I was right on Eliza and Treasure as wolves. Right on Madeline as town
But I was wrong on Badeline and Bionic. I thought for sure game would end by now.
Alright, I ask that you donât shoot straight away @Madeline I think itâs best to be able to look at everything so far so youâre able to have a fully informed decision. I feel gutted I was wrong on Guava man.
oh gagged
Iâm still processing that Bionic was somehow town ngl
what was the âthought processâ on badeline anyway
looking back on it this post was totally to sew doubt because from your perspective itâs pretty clear you would be fighting me in f3 since the rest of thread trusted our clears on each other
but Iâm stubborn as fuck and I rarely reevaluate my reads so I didnât really think too much of you saying that I thought you were just paranoid
okay but why did you think this (also hedgy but I ahte people who call things hedgy)
like itâs true and sometimes itâs scummy but aghhh
Looking at the flipped wolves:
My analysis on Achromatic slot can be found here and within this you can see that Achro slot interacted a ton with their teammates. I had been actively analysing Achro slot when Tutuu died, so I didnât even know they were killed while I was posting my thing I did even pick up on Achro slot interacting with Eliza within my post but thought it looked alright at the time since Eliza was someone who Achro slot treated as a scumlean.
Key Luka interactions
This was Lukaâs first read of the game and it was a weak townread on a teammate. There were some more interactions with Treasure but these were spread out with Lukaâs interactions with my own slot which were very different, Luka instead trying to throw early shade upon me.
One of the main themes within Lukaâs ISO (Similar to Achro slot) was interactions with teammates quite a bit. Having interacted with Achromatics, Jail and Eliza. Even TMIâing Eliza/Achro as a wolf pair based on this in which Luka said Eliza was W if paired with Achro, yet not bringing this up later into the game. Luka also said one more thing which has potential to look into which can be found here which you had analysed Madeline to help bring up a possibility of Eliza/Guava as wolves
Key Treasure interactions
I think this is becoming a common theme, but if you take a dive into Treasureâs ISO the early interactions are once again with⌠other flipped wolf mates. Achromatics and Luka primarily, with some interactions with jail to get them set up as a mis-kill.
This slot tried to pocket me, an example of which we have in: this post and was one of the only slots to focus on Tutuuâs reads which can be found in Treasureâs post here which notably (other than Eliza) has only had flipped T members so far and so I think wolves probably planned to kill Tutuu to try and push for mis-kills if weâd focused on Tutuuâs reads.
And one of the most weird interactions (in retrospect) which can be found here which feels like an attempt to speak to a teammate but not in a way within which much can be read into later. I wasnât around when this was said, hence me not picking up on it sooner.
Key Eliza interactions
I think the most notable thing to analyse would be here with when Eliza decided to analyse Luka (A fellow wolf mate) and in the end tried to use it to justify a town read on herself and also to pocket me for later, which I did call her out on a couple of times.
By putting 2 town, 1 wolf within this, Eliza opened up the possibility for an instant win if Badeline chose to just follow the shots (since I had read Guava as good) and if not for Guava to look more innocent due to being included within this.
Notably, despite Guava having been around and interacting a bit, Eliza didnât bother to make any read, as stated here which, if youâre making a read on a teammate you need to be careful of TMI and at that point weâd already sunk multiple wolves so Eliza being cautious about reading guava slot in retrospect looks bad for them and makes them more paired.
My read on Eliza was relatively consistent, thinking that Eliza was a top wolf candidate. Here was where I posted my ideal shot order. I didnât think that it would be fully followed and I didnât think itâd come down to this >.>
Badeline asked me who Iâd shoot and once again I did say: This is what Iâd shoot in a Final 5 situation with me having the gun.
Badeline had considered shooting Madeline and bare in mind that if this had happened, based on the posts at the time, Madeline probably wouldâve shot Bionic and so if I was wolf, this would be perfect for me, an instant win. Instead I quickly jumped in to try and prevent this from happening which Badelineâs post can be found here and my attempt to stop Madeline from being shot can be found here. In the world where I succeeded, and, I did. It meant that instead of Madeline being shot, then Eliza or me would be shot due to Badelineâs read on Bionic, which in the world where weâre both wolves is once again, terrible.
Badeline had also considered shooting Bionic and having them shoot Guava, a slot which, at the time I thought was almost guaranteed to be town. So once again I disagreed with that happening. This post by Badeline can be found here with my response being this in a quick panic as I thought the shot was about to happen and I wanted to stop that chain.
One other notable thing I remember posting about which could help here was another post about me being against a Madeline shot here, with a follow up right below it here due to my Guava read. Upon Badeline asking about an Eliza shot here I replied saying my world which in retrospect was wrong. But I had confidence on Eliza and misplaced confidence in Guava.
If you think Iâm a wolf still, I can understand it. Iâve not posted too much but Iâve tried to make myself readable. To the point where even Badeline who had thought I was wolf for honestly⌠most of the game, even ended up saying: this. Iâm proud of how Iâve done this game and I will fight to prove myself in the end if I need to more than I already have.
Responding to your recent posts Guava:
I did already say something about that which can be found here I also didnât like how Badeline handled some slots (E.G. Madeline) and also how Badeline handled my own slot, thinking that it was possible Badeline had pushed agenda in order to get me killed. Instead as it turns out Badeline just wanted to be able to read me, in which Badeline did at the end.
I thought you were town to the point that I was defending you to Badeline and others too. I several times stated that I thought game would end when Eliza and Bionic were dead (With an outside chance at Madeline), you being wolf hadnât really crossed my head and it got me paranoid when Bionic got shot, game continued and then immediately shot Madeline too.
Your read on me was the first thing that made me think you were town. It shown accurate meta and build a level of trust due to it. This was a post in response to Madeline for the same question too.
Well clearly not cuz youâre scum LOL
@Madeline you have less than 12 hrs please do come online so I can answer anything you want. Iâd rather us not just lose from you not shooting anyone
Iâm not going to be asking anything
You two should continue to make cases against each other.
Currently think guava is the wolf here, not at all confident though
Iâve made my main case really, by analysing the wolf slots from every other flipped wolf.
I could do a dive on Guava but at this point Guava and me are gonna be spiderman pointing fingers at each other and thatâs not necessarily helpful for us to be doing.
Keep burying guava
The whole point of f3 is spider man pointing fingers
Only one of you has real points to make though
Guavaâs early posting was reactions to Achro being shot which can be found here and here with no sign of being happy about the flip.
Guava didnât really elaborate on reads instead saying this about your slot.
Upon the deaths of Tutuu and Luka this felt like something which was expected, however, guava seemed to act unaware of Lukaâs flip here and had a lacklustre reaction once again to a second wolf flip here which makes me think that Guava in retrospect had started to lose WIM.
Speaking about a teammate, Guava says this which given that evils had been murdered quite a bit makes sense for evils to be trying to guard each other somewhat.
And then Guava went into the pocket Kiiruma phase which annoyingly worked. As Iâll be honest if Iâd been given the gun earlier thereâs no world in which Iâd shoot Guava at the time.