oh wow you responded to that so seriously
what they said was so silly I assumed it was a joke
Yeah I thought it was a joke too so I liked it because when it comes to F5 we have to kinda just lay out all cards on the table for a solve.
Hi everyone!
Iâm most likely going to be shooting Madeline unless someone can convince me otherwise.
Their case on me was not good, simply put. It misrepresented both how I have played this game and boiled down to be being âtoo correctâ this game to not be scum. Iâll take it as a compliment.
Sheâs also been constantly hedging on Bionicâs slot, constantly calling them a wolf and calling them scum but at the same time saying they shouldnât be shot. I donât like how they handled my slot at all there and Iâm sad that Otter decided to shoot me because of it.
Right now, I think 2/3 wolves exist in Madeline/Kiiruma/Eliza.
I will shoot by 11:00 pm EST tonight. Make your case for your shot by then. If you townread Madeline, do something about it.
I think Bionic is probably my top townread as well funnily enough, especially with how Madeline has handled their slot!
The crime of being wrong in a mafia game.
You went from top townreading me to saying you want to shoot me because I didnât townread you and was wrong on your slot.
I townread Madeline so please allow me to try and dissuade you from shooting there.
Early game I wouldâve agreed on your read, as I felt like this post amongst some other early ones felt like Madeline was trying to be a people pleaser.
However, I did like Madelineâs thoughts concerning Achro and it felt somewhat unpaired. One of the best posts by Madeline was this in which Madeline analysed a potential take on the wolvesâ game plan based on Achro.
Also considering how Luka hadnât flipped yet, Madeline had another good take consider their slot which can be found here. I personally believe that Madelineâs early game was relatively decent, with some misreads (E.G. You)
I can move onto some later parts too, but I wanted to get this out so you at least start thinking about it.
I think killing Bionic and Eliza wins us the game. If not, then sure, Madelineâs a wolf. But I think Madeline is good(?). Being my 2nd most confident townread.
You accused me the crime of being right, a crime which you had also committed. Your read doesnât make any sense to me. I donât see why you would want me shot over other players unless you realized I was going to re-eval you and you were scared Iâd find you scum.
That isnât accurate. I had realized that I didnât have a strong reason to townread any player, including you, and that I should re-eval you from your position at the top because you really didnâtâ deserve it. I didnât make that clear at the time because I wanted to sleep.
If you think the core part of the case is just that you were right, then skill issue.
I really donât like this part personally.
With Luka, with Treasure, you werenât hedging on their reads at all. All you said was âThey are a wolf.â
With Bionic and me, you keep saying that we could be town, but that we are a wolf. You are admitting that youâre wrong before they ever flip. I personally think Bionic is threadspewed town but you keep insisting that theyâre wolf, and that they shouldnât be shot. You realize we win if we shoot the wolves right?
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Youâre wrong though
I literally do not care to explain myself to you, it sounds exhausting and I personally think youâre too lost to OMGUS to ever be persuaded anyway
Im fine with being the gun holder in F5 and then you can think about maybe not OMGUSing so hard in the future
Thatâs disappointing.
I was egging you on honestly. i wasnât sold on a shot on you. I wanted to see how you responded.
You havenât even made it clear who you want shot. Present your reads for me please.
I did not town read you at any point in time
At best I was pretty meh on your slot. Thatâs definitely a skill issue from me since youâre town.
But you treating someone who was formerly your top town read as outed wolf when sheâs the one that made the case that got two wolves killed for advocating to shoot you when sheâs been meh on you all game and then thought she had a similar catch as with treasure and Luka
Itâs very skill issue on your part, I am town and have the right to be salty at someone losing their shit over being scum read
I town read kiiruma for aforementioned reasons
Bionic is most likely to be wolf just off of âhead empty, no readsâ wolf archetype read but I also have complete confidence in them losing us the game if theyâre town, and like, there are also âhead empty, no readsâ town archetype players too, so in that way itâs a risky shot. Idc if you call it hedgy, Iâm not pretending like I have confidence on a slot thatâs barely playing.
The rest are a bucket of nulls that Iâm not going to pretend to have a bunch of super insightful reads on
I really wish jail had elaborated on their town read on Eliza too because wow I do not understand what they saw with that slot.
probably bionic�
but i wouldnât have a good shot for them to take like they request so
Why would you shoot Bionic?
well
they seem to be ~consensus poe
and i have cleared Kii based on Luka iso
so that makes a poe of
âŚoh
Who do you think Bionic is teamed with?
i see