Prehistoric Purgatory - Game Over: Town wins

[Trochilidae]

that’s sad

[Rue]

Will you be around in a half hour? I’d like to discuss your reads with you.

[Trochilidae]

same
i’m distracted rn and doing things

[BradLand]

Yeah but I don’t know how much I even have.

[Rue]

That’s why I’d like to discuss with you.

/unvote @Host_Account_1

[Trochilidae]

can i discuss too

[Lucky]

@BradLand

Also Porscha is town so probably my next Heaven vote.

Same here.

[Lucky]

@Zone_Q11

Lucky, your hedging really makes me want to put you back to my POE.

You think I care?

[Lucky]

If you want to put a town in the PoE that’s on you, but don’t try and blame others post game it’s your own fault.

[Lucky]

Unless your mafia in which case I guess you couldn’t care less.

[Gorta]

@Aelin

totally didnt realize that eod was an hour earlier
which was vaguely awkward

same here

[Lucky]

@Zone_Q11

…well, I guess he is Lucky’s replacement.

Brad’s town.
Don’t even.

[Lucky]

Basically it’s like.
Dota/Gorta/Tro contain a Wolf.
Kiiruma/Zone/Moose contain a Wolf.

[Zone_Q11]

@BradLand

No I would assume Derps would say something along the lines of “I know what I’m doing, I’m a good wolf” in wolf chat and then proceed to vote partners randomly when it’s unnecessary.

Again this isn’t me knowing the guy, but it’s an archetype that I’m finding him to fit into.

But this scenario means that his “I’m a wildcard” post is unrelated to his actual motives are.

You first say “I think Derps says […] as a signal that he would vote his scumbuddies,” but then you say “I assume Derps would say he would vote his scumbuddies in scumchat.”

@BradLand

It’s really not…it’s your partners and you got caught up in it.

This post irritates me. You assume here that Derps and I are W/W when you don’t even have any “reasonable” argument as to why.
(No matter what happens, “Zone is W because Derps is distancing his scumbuddy by parking a vote on Zone for the entirety of Hell 1” is not a reasonable argument to me.)

Regardless of your alignment, you are putting the cart before the horse. If you scroll up and check the conversation, the everyone can see that you are literally saying: “Derps parking your vote on you, so it is now your business, scum.”

Like, bruh. There is no consideration of a world where Derps parked a vote on v!Zone whatsoever. You are literally enforcing a w!Zone narrative.

@BradLand

@Zone_Q11

What about Hippo and Lucky, whom he had as his townlock and townread respectively throughout the entire Hell 1?

Could see Hippo being town for the pocket “lock town!” attempt.

I agree to disagree. I scumread Hippo ever since Heaven 1 for the same reason you scumread me.

@BradLand

@Zone_Q11

So what about Moose, whom he literally ignored for “being a newbie”?

Moose I’ve never had as a townread so no idea there I’ve been drawing a blank there.

I hereby formally request you to start reading Moose. I would like to hear an evaluation that is not “blank” if possible.

@BradLand

@Zone_Q11

Do you solely scumread me based on a behavior which you cannot confirm is an actual scumtell or not?

And yeah I think you could be mafia based on that.

Okay. I now understand that I cannot reason with you completely as we have different standards.

Even so, I would still like continue this discussion since… it personally seems to me like nothing much is happening at the moment.

[Gorta]

@Zone_Q11

Conclusion: Gorta is scummy. Nowhere has he stated that he blatantly scumread Derps aside from the mild scumread P#1494, except in that post, he claims to already have scumread Derps before (albeit mildly) which is untrue. At most, one could argue that Gorta hints at scumreading Derps, but there was no direct scumread made whatsoever.

@Gorta

I do want to go over it again tomorrow, but still consider it a light scum read

context matters

[Rue]

I am willing to listen to your input as long as you are willing to give it.

[Gorta]

also hello, I’m kind of tired, so I think going to bed early tonight, but I’ll be here for 30 minutes at least

[BradLand]

@Rue I’ll give you my worldview in a second.

[Lucky]

@Zone_Q11

Actually, Brad has given his reason as to why he thinks Porscha is town in P#2826, but that in itself is weird, because Brad townreads Porscha’s P#1330 for:

• Having little to no opinion of Derps
• Not thinking Wazza was giving of wolf vibes
• Agreeing with ???'s read that Lucky was being town
• For some reason mentions having no defense of Derps
• Basically telling what her side of the story is, without forming any conclusion
• Asking what Brad thinks of Derps

Literally nothing about that post makes me think Porscha is towny.
I wanna see what @BradLand comes up with

The fact Zone confused Me at the end there with Brad is lol.

@Zone_Q11

• On one hand, I can conform to speedrun sending dota to hell, since I have them on my scumread as well (as I have concluded in P#2741).
• On the other hand, Lucky and Brad townread Porscha with literally no reason stated.

Yeah if Dota flips Wolf just turbo Yeet Zone next Hell Phase this is lol.

[Lucky]

@BradLand

@Zone_Q11

Literally nothing about that post makes me think Porscha is towny.
I wanna see what @BradLand comes up with.

When I asked Porscha about the 2 wagons I was looking for a specific scumtell, and I’m being vague about it because it’s something I’ve learned from someone that I wouldn’t want to tell unless they were fine with sharing.

But Porscha didn’t do that scumtell, and in fact it looked like it was an entire description of what she was seeing, I understood the unsureness of reading one or the other since I was struggling myself, and yeah I thought the post was overall her evaluating both slots.

Porscha is more obvious later in the game.
Dota and Gorta can’t do that therefore they must go.