Aelin
I have issues with her posts on a micro level, and I believe she does not have as nuanced of a worldview as she would as town.
Do you disagree with my conclusions?
Rue, the value of a vote depends on the holder. I have you up high in my townread.
Compared to a trollerâs vote, your vote matters significantly more to me than theirs.
âŚIâm sorry I have to beat around the bush, but I would like to know how serious you are right now.
Not individually, except for your Zone read, but I find the ways youâve been handling your conclusions wolfy.
I do not make worthless votes, outside of at the very start of the game. My vote is serious, but it does not mean I am locked on Aelin being todayâs elimination.
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Very well. For now, I will park my vote on Aelin and ISO her.
What do you thinkâs wolfy about them? Or do you just mean the âquickhammerâ thing?
Homework Part 3: Things I found while ISO'ing Brad, kinda.
- P#197 Derps downgraded Bradâs reason to townread Wazza. Now that Wazza flipped town, I am more inclined to believe that this was w!Derps trying to throw shade at v!Wazza. This in turn makes me believe that Brad is town, because otherwise the entire early Hell 1 Brad/Derps interaction would be a big scumtheater, which I donât want to believe.
- P#222 I asked Brad where he was going with his âagreementâ on voting Moose. (No response received AFAIK.)
- P#269 I responded to Bradâs accusation of dota/Zone being W/W, which was based on P#239 and P#242.
- P#439 I explained to Lucky how I donât like Bradâs reasoning, but I donât actively scumread him either.
- P#441 Brad asked why I donât like him.
- P#446 I explained how I donât like the fact that I got put as W/W with dota for no apparent reason.
- P#449 Brad shrugged the entire topic off as a joke.
- P#787 I mention how Luckyâs interaction with Brad made me townread Wazza. This was me butting in into their conversation. However, from oneâs viewpoint, it could be seen as me siding with Brad.
- P#1333 Brad made a case on Derps, which in hindsight is mainly based on Derpsâ lack of attention on Brad.
- P#1629 Brad asked why I scumread Hippo.
- P#1641 I answered Brad that it was because of P#888, where Hippo said
"zones posting has been straight up bad recently, potentially worse than luckys".
- P#2065 Brad got triggered for not getting townlocked by Aelin.
- P#2070 Aelin explained why she doesnât townlock Brad.
- P#2074 Brad explains why he is town⌠of which his reasoning is dependent on everyone taking his word for his scum meta (in the sense that âhe wouldnât bus as mafiaâ), and Lucky being town (in the sense of "if I am mafia and Lucky is town, then [âŚ]).
- P#2521 I admitted how I have been avoiding reading Brad, but GTH I wouldâve had him as town.
- P#2683 Kiiruma mentioned how he was fine sending Brad to heaven, though he preferred Wazza/Aelin/Trochi to be sent.
- P#2690 Lucky thinks
"all of [Wazza/Aelin/Trochi] could be wolf"and yet he"want(s) Brad around". Additionally he complains about how âthe majority does not agree that Hippo and Porscha are townâ.
- P#2841 Brad believes that Derps hinted at town that he would bus his scumbuddies
Conclusion:
I still believe that P#197, P#787, and the entire conversation between P#2065 and P#2074 makes Brad towny. However, literally everything else is dumb.
- P#222 was left unexplained as far as I am aware.
- The entire Zone/dota are W/W accusation (P#239 ~ P#449) was shrugged off as a joke.
- I still havenât paid attention to Brad/Derps interaction at End of Hell 1 (and if I have, then I have forgotten all about it), but the original argument why Brad voted Derps (P#1333) can be boiled down into âbecause Derps ignored Bradâ.
- His main reason to scumread me as of P#2841 is because he thinks that Derps would bus his scumbuddy. However, one of Bradâs arguments depends on the statement âDerps falls under the archetype that would announce in public that Derps is chaotic, and that announcement is meant to be interpreted as him attempting to bus his scumbuddiesâ which is utter nonsense, since he admitted in P#2850 that he doesnât even know Derps (and by extension his meta / his archetype).
TL;DR Brad townread, but illogical. Illogical scale is âhalf a Sethâ.
Disclaimer:
This entire list was made by checking out most posts when I typed search bar "in this topic: @Zone_Q11 Brad", which means that it is not exactly Bradâs ISO, but more accurately âthings related to Brad in my own ISOâ.
There are definitely posts that I have not given my attention to (such as Derps/Brad interaction at End of Hell 1), but unless I deem it necessary to make a full ISO on Brad, then I wonât delve further for now.
Notes to self.
Regarding P#1629: Check out whether Bradâs townread on Hippo is consistent or not.
UPDATE (1): According to P#2893, Brad townreads Hippo because he views Derpsâ behavior towards Hippo as attempts to pocket Hippo. (For the time being, I disagree. I have an easier time believing that this was Derps/Hippo distancing from each other.)
UPDATE (2): According to VC #10, Hippo is the first one to start Derpsâ wagon, along with Rue. Unless the mafia have already decided by then that Derps was meant to be expendable, then it is more believable that Hippo is just towny. (In that case, I would still have to check up on Hippoâs original case on Derps.)
Regarding P#1333: I didnât notice it until [moment of writing; 07:54 PM], but P#1286 can be viewed as w!Brad asking his scumbuddy Derps to join another wagon in the name of self-preservation.
Side notes: "All the things I don't like from Lucky."
- Nobody, not even Lucky responded to my response (P#787) to his opinions on Aelinâs POE (P#500).
- I despise P#2543 where Lucky shrugs off Trochiâs townread on me by saying that my P#2520 is NAI. He doesnât ask Trochi why he thinks my post was towny; Lucky just outright declared that my post was NAI and ended the discussion there.
- P#2687: @Lucky, if my reasoning can be faked, then what part about me cannot? Trochi found me towny because
"[Zone] oozes salty town energy"(P#2541) yet you immediately shot that down by saying"that's like NAI". So I ask you: If that (i.e. P#2520) is NAI, then what isnât?
I forgot to make another conclusion about this, but basically: âSeth is the most illogical among everyone.â
Why?
Hell 2 - Votecount 5
| Vote Target | Voted by | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| dota | Lucky, Aelin, Porscha | 3/7 |
| Aelin | Rue, Zone, BradLand | 3/7 |
| Kiiruma | lol | 1/7 |
| Not Voting | dota, Hippo, Gorta, Kiiruma, Trochilidae, Moose | 6 |
ThatâsâŚnot newâŚ
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iâm here
vaguely
why tf is lol voting kiiruma
why are people voting dota (besides being dota)
this is good
/vote aelin @Host_Account_1
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aelin is mafia so we should vote them out in heaven not hell
Why?