Prehistoric Purgatory - Game Over: Town wins

[Trochilidae]

okay yeah i see your point now
read above post for details

[Trochilidae]

i’m not above playing emotionally as scum
but i don’t touch that particular issue with a 10 foot pole

[Rue]

I’m going to take a break from thread.

I would like to draw attention to the fact that every vote on dota was placed less than 12 hours into the phase, and yet he has spent all of it as the top wagon. I suggest considering alternatives.

[Rue]

Don’t make posts like this. They could be construed as trust tells.

[Trochilidae]

oh shit sorry that wasn’t my intention

[Rue]

Trochi, what are your thoughts on Gorta?

[Gorta]

I don’t think Hippo ever gave much reasoning to the Derps vote. and after that I feel like Hippo kind of dipped from the thread. What’s your opinion on dota?

[Zone_Q11]

@Gorta

That’s the thing, I have a hard time processing the idea that Lucky is a wolf this game. Derps does handle Lucky’s slot weirdly and that does give me some concern, but I also have trouble thinking that Lucky is scum with derps this game. So I wouldn’t kill Lucky today, but meh I’ll keep a closer eye on the slot.

Have you… tried to evaluate Lucky outside his interaction with Derps?

@Gorta

The only people I have strong reads on are you, Lucky and I need to read more slots. I mean I eventually realized Derps was scum, but Derps is also dead. The only other person I read today was dota and I really don’t know what to think about that slot.

First of all: How come you say you have a strong read on Lucky when you mentioned in the very same post that you are conflicted on how to handle Lucky’s slot?

Secondly: Hell Phase ends at 2022-03-30T19:00:00Z which is less than 6 hours from now, and IIRC it is very late where you are now. Once Heaven Phase starts, could you -in your spare time- make reads on Rue/Aelin/Trochi? I think you are lagging behind very hard if you don’t have (at the very least) Rue as a strong read.

@Lucky

Why is Gorta town again?

Originally, it was because of P#3056, but Gorta’s recent posts made me realize he is not up to date with the thread, which is a good cover if he is mafia, so I’m dropping him down from my reads.

[Zone_Q11]

@Rue

Trochilidae, Aelin, and lol.

It’s not a very refined list, but I’m focusing more on townreads for the time being.

@Lucky

Alright Rue can go down.

@Lucky

Not that much but still down.

…I really can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree with Lucky.

Unless this is an agenda, then having [Trochi/Aelin/lol] as top three scumreads is… “odd”, to say the least. I have yet to review lol (because that’s Homework Part 6), but I am fairly confident that Aelin is town, or at the very least not W/W with Trochi.

UPDATE (1): I wanted to mention that Trochi’s attitude towards Aelin in P#3275, and Aelin’s lack of response is the reason why I don’t think they are W/W, but then I read their interaction between P#3198 ~ P#3217, and… it wasn’t tense / hostile at all. I’d expected Aelin to fight back more as town. Sigh, I might need to re-eval them as well.

UPDATE (2): Nyeh… I am not so sure anymore about re-evaluating Aelin after remembering that she was the one who made P#966.
On one hand, if they are W/W, then w!Aelin was basically trying to push out her scumbuddy since Hell 1 to get towncred, and it would make her look good regardless of whether it’d succeeded or failed.
On the other hand, so much effort was spent in the making of P#966 that I am simply less inclined to believe a wolf would tryhard ever since Hell 1. (Though admittedly, this is objectively a weak argument.)

@Trochilidae

i think she’s more likely to flip scum
she townrewds me
what’s difficult to understand about those two pieces of info

The part of why she townreads you despite you scumreading her. As I mentioned above, she was also the one who made a case against you in P#966, and uh… in layman’s terms: “I am too lazy to believe that that wallpost comes from mafia.”

Look, I apologize. Admittedly, I have done no specific read / research on you. The only one comment I have made so far is dependent on my townread on Aelin, and an outdated post of hers.
If I were to GTH you right now, then I’d have you as town because I like your response in P#3467, but other than that: You’d be as null as Kiiruma. (Well, not really, because I don’t like Kiiruma’s original attitude towards Lucky. So, I guess you’d be above Kiiruma.)

[Trochilidae]

slot i want to pressure cause rn i’m not seeing much of note
but as gorta is gorta
lol

[Trochilidae]

gtg to work now
ping me with shit as always

[Gorta]

@Zone_Q11

Have you… tried to evaluate Lucky outside his interaction with Derps?

I have and found Lucky to be towny, but due to the interactions with derps I will be watching Lucky a bit closer.

@Zone_Q11

First of all: How come you say you have a strong read on Lucky when you mentioned in the very same post that you are conflicted on how to handle Lucky’s slot?

because in my conclusive posts I came to the decision that I’m just going to watch Lucky closer despite still having a townread on Lucky

@Zone_Q11

and IIRC it is very late where you are now.

it’s 9 AM here

@Zone_Q11

I think you are lagging behind very hard if you don’t have (at the very least) Rue as a strong read.

wait, I did find Rue town, nevermind, I’m just dumb

[Zone_Q11]

@Lucky

Rue also can’t even see that their reason for Dota being town is horrible.

I wouldn’t say it is terrible, but I would say it is bad.

@Rue

Can you explain to me why wolves are willing to go down a second member without even trying to start a counterwagon, then?

Using this logic, wouldn’t you become the top suspect for being dota’s scumbuddy?
Well, more specifically, [you/me/Brad/Trochi]?

@Trochilidae

hmmmok sure because i was going to roast the fuck out of you if you said yes
and if anyone does believe that i will roast the fuck out of them too

Alright, I recently posted why you/Aelin “could be W/W” (P#3549), so start roasting me.

[Gorta]

@Gorta

Now, I do like Rue’s ISO. I like Rue’s thought process through d1 and how she is prompting people like me to interact more. I know people will hate me for this, but Rue’s posts read as genuine. Like it seems like Rue is in a no nonsense mode and has made efforts to break up fights and prompt people to solve by asking the right questions. An example being when Rue was asking me why I thought Zone was town based on my argument of Zone being anti town = Zone being town. Rue also asked me who I was sending to heaven this phase and she has been asking similar questions to others. That along with the solving and her thought process so far makes me think Rue is town here.

here

[Trochilidae]

read my most recent posts

[Gorta]

@Rue why do you town read dota?

[Gorta]

It’s probably in your ISO, but I’m lazy (maybe I shouldn’t be so lazy)

[Rue]

I would like you to answer something for me first.

Give me impressions on each player in the game, without ISOing them.

[Rue]

I’m going to try to post a readslist with a clearer head once Gorta answers my question.

[Gorta]

hold on, I’m watching a video on the side