Role Review (from a shithead's perspective)

Game Discussion
#41

That’s

How I’d describe a lot of that script actually

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#42

then i’m on the mark lmao

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#43

Yep

Though “You are immune to abilities” does go kinda hard

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#44

botc design is genuinely just social deduction design difficulty on crack
the dark souls of social deduction design if you will

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#45

i see no problems with this

#46

or rather
I’d probably need to see it in action / host for it to determine how good it is
I honestly can’t say anything

#47

one of the worst designed roles in all of mafia

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#48

At least you can’t say Comintern gets outed D1 by a no execution.

#49

So the quintessential Mafia loop consists of good players trying to find each other and find evils, who in turn attempt to remain under the radar.

In a fake Atheist game, an evil player is willing to take a dive in order for the rest of their team to remain under the radar in the easiest way possible. This still relates to good’s objective to find each other and figure out whether or not the Atheist is real, so in a fake game it doesn’t break the loop. If your complaint is about solving in this context over a long period anyway, it’s just Mafia with something extra. In regards to hostreading… well, as everything will eventually be tried at different times, and different things can happen at different times, it’s usually just better not to do that, isn’t it? Like assuming Amelia won’t put in a Heretic because they’ve never done it before.
(This is to defend putting Atheist on a script.)

#50

bomber is only workable in a game with sufficient investigatives to out it, because reading for a fucking solo neutral is hard as shit when they are sufficiently competent at the game

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#51

Tos2, where they made Bomber HARDER TO FIND :joy_cat:

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#52

and even then…
like jfc

#53

Soul Collector is this.

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#54

isn’t soul collector like really fucking hard to win with

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#55

transforming into death requires how many souls

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#56

Soul Collector needs 6 souls to become the Death Horseman. Then the game turns into a whack a mole, the mole being Death Horseman and they have only once chance at it.

#57

6

You get 1 passively every night
Successfully guessing a nightkill gives you a second

#58

This is in theory difficult

However bmg has decided that this works just fine as a fucking factional role

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#59

Apparently BMG looks at the Pestilence apocalypse role from ToS. Nah this isn’t enough, we need 4 apocalypse roles in ToS2.

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#60

lmao