[RP Interest Check] VLDR (and VLDR-esques)

[Keldi]

ok but consider.

we could have more

[Silviu200530]

Firstly there’s problems regarding VLDRs and want your spin on it.

[Silviu200530]

Sadly I cam t link the posts but here’s problems from memory. And I m going to exclude danganrompa gaming site for these.

There s a lack of killing motivation here due to people wishing to stay alive and keep on participating, killing somebody and escaping eliminates you from the game regardless of winning or losing and was sometimes used more as a method to move the plot forward. (A person named Aelin was in a game where nobody died for like almost a month so she decided to kill somebody and then make it obvious she s a killer.) There’s also the sentiment of not feeling to be good enough to carry a murder as the hosts on the site doesn’t quite guide the blackened nor does the mastermind.

[Silviu200530]

Sometimes there’s problems with distribution of items and timezone.

One from Europe doesn’t interact often with one from USA and one can miss alot because they’re cursed with living in a specific territory.

[lol]

all i’m hearing is excuses and not enough ins

[Silviu200530]

How To Commit Murders That Don't Suck In DR - An Essay

That Lady Who Hosted That One Game People Liked Despite The Fact It Kinda Sucked Presents: How To Commit Murders That Don’t Suck: A Guide For the purposes of edification and the aiding of gameplay in future games And of partial explanatory nature for various design decisions likely being taken in the upcoming “Danganronpa 6: Subtitle Pending”, a game which you may or may not be excited for Featuring Various Insights Gleamed From Reading Far Too Many Murder Mysteries And Conjuring Texts (…

This is a guide on murder, I think it works pretty well in explaining. Especially the locked-room murder mysteries.

Also this

[Mistyx]

vldr and dr are different games

[Silviu200530]

Isn’t DR literally a VLDR aswell?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

Nope

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

VLDR is way different

[Silviu200530]

[Satori]

Based on my experience playing FotD. This seems to be the case. Even someone who had the “traitor” role was not even doing their job properly due to RP reasons. Even with Atlas’s game which has been going on for around 2 months already yet and no one else has died since a month ago. (This is in stark contrast with normal FMs where everyone seems to be more than willing to be a bloodthirsty killer.)

I do get why there’s a lack of motivation to commit murder, especially in DR esque games not only because they want to keep playing the game but because the very nature of the game system itself makes it very stressful and difficult to kill someone since it’s all conducted in real-time, it forces the killer to think on their feet and a lot can go wrong which can be very stressful. It’s also very hard to be sneaky especially if there 16+ players. Also, people have the tendency to treat the game like an FM game and read too much into everyone’s posts and even make judgments and accusations based on OOC info rather than IC info.

Just my 2 cents.

[Satori]

But in any case. I’m interested to see where this VLDR thing goes~

[Silviu200530]

Well excluding DR then, which these were fun, God bless Death City. It was so fulled with secret stuff that I still have no idea was the other relics from that game were.

[Silviu200530]

What about the immortality of the crab?

[Keldi]

@Silviu200530

Sadly I cam t link the posts but here’s problems from memory. And I m going to exclude danganrompa gaming site for these.

There s a lack of killing motivation here due to people wishing to stay alive and keep on participating, killing somebody and escaping eliminates you from the game regardless of winning or losing and was sometimes used more as a method to move the plot forward. (A person named Aelin was in a game where nobody died for like almost a month so she decided to kill somebody and then make it obvious she s a killer.) There’s also the sentiment of not feeling to be good enough to carry a murder as the hosts on the site doesn’t quite guide the blackened nor does the mastermind.

@Silviu200530

Isn’t DR literally a VLDR aswell?

@Satori

Based on my experience playing FotD. This seems to be the case. Even someone who had the “traitor” role was not even doing their job properly due to RP reasons. Even with Atlas’s game which has been going on for around 2 months already yet and no one else has died since a month ago. (This is in stark contrast with normal FMs where everyone seems to be more than willing to be a bloodthirsty killer.)

I do get why there’s a lack of motivation to commit murder, especially in DR esque games not only because they want to keep playing the game but because the very nature of the game system itself makes it very stressful and difficult to kill someone since it’s all conducted in real-time, it forces the killer to think on their feet and a lot can go wrong which can be very stressful. It’s also very hard to be sneaky especially if there 16+ players. Also, people have the tendency to treat the game like an FM game and read too much into everyone’s posts and even make judgments and accusations based on OOC info rather than IC info.

Just my 2 cents.

inhale
exhale

it literally says in the post it says in the post that this is its own thing forumronpas don’t have roaming phases and i already know this site does danganronpas please i’m going to cry

[Keldi]

This is not Danganronpa.
This has nothing to do with Danganronpa.
There are no Ultimates, no trials, no executions.
This is completely different.

thank you for understanding

[Whysper]

What are you thinking for handling the sessions for this? Are you going to do this on Discord or through PMs here? Will the sessions be like concentrated 1-2 hour sessions where everyone is expected to focus on this during that time? Or something like daily timespans where you will drop in here and there to process things? Sorry if you’ve already specified in your OP or other posts, but I couldn’t find this.

[Keldi]

@Keldi

How do we process actions as quickly as a game like this needs?

Typically, we over at VLDR use Discord. Actions are NOT public. (However, there are ways to send actions privately without Discord, so it’s up to what you and the host work out.) (Also there’s an exception for flavor actions like waving your hand, physical tics, hitting the griddy, etc etc)

I could theoretically do it either way- in Discord or via personalized PM action-submitting chains. Each has pros and cons.

How it’s traditionally done is via concentrated sessions, though they go a lot longer over on the forums. For me, personally, oh god. I ran a VLDR over there and tried to process actions for… like 12 hours straight a day with a few breaks.

…it did not go well

So basically. It’d probably realistically end up being a mix? I’m big ADHD so there’d definitely be times I’d be actively processing things but no biggie on people not being able to be around, the usual deal is that if someone can’t make it during active processing time one day or another, they’re puppetted by the host so things aren’t unfair for them. And then I’d probably swing by and process 1 or 2 of everyone’s actions before returning to something. My life is a mess so I’m doing my best.

And of course timezones ought to be accounted for. I’m not going to be processing actions when the majority of people are asleep because it’s 3 am for them. My timezone is PST, aka it’s… 3:54 PM at the time I’m posting this.

does this answer your question?

[Whysper]

Yeah, this basically answers my question and sounds reasonable. I particularly like that you say you’ll puppet the characters for people who can’t make it so it isn’t unfair for them.