SCoD 68 - Ascendance of the Unshackled - Unshackled win

like i know ive been a proponent for individual reads over team reads but i am willing to say that the ratio of town:scum is small enough where team reads are viable at this point, especially with the fuckiness of wagons

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any actual analysis or response to the actual posts would be helpful

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I am trying to look through Creatureā€™s ISO

I feel something is missing

Iā€™ve read yours earlier to see if you missed any person but nope

Though I would ask you more about Kiiruma as you didnā€™t analyze him as much

i havenā€™t analyzed any of kii/you/creature/jarek/leafia
those were my thoughts pre-iso

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what are your thoughts on my potential convert list? hell, what your thoughts on me? i donā€™t think iā€™ve seen those and yet youā€™re not trying to like actively brush aside anything iā€™ve been doing and iā€™m pushing you to talk about my reads ;-;

@Creature


Creature, can you ISO the people you think are wolves :sob: I need more info

I do understand that you are trying to look what alignment I am by interacting directly with me

But I donā€™t initially understand what did you see or what you are seeing because it requires me to look into these peopleā€™s ISO directly and constantly ask if ā€œthis?ā€ ā€œthis?ā€ ā€œthis?ā€ is the post that youā€™re referring to.

What did you like about creatureā€™s D1? It was their theorizing?

Perhaps, itā€™s his voting patterns (the only one noteworthy either being testing his vote against Leafia or EoD)?

Votecount as of post #1058

Frostwolf103 (4): Kiiruma, Hazardwaste, Leafia, Jarek
Jarek (2): Frostwolf103, Creature
Leafia (1): Ruby
Hazardwaste (1): Gorta
Ashlyn (1): Marluxion

Not Voting (2): Silviu200530, Ashlyn

(Admittedly, it was pretty sudden he voted Jarek becauseā€¦ I am not seeing any prior suspicions) while their only interactions are:

Or maybe you liked his openers?

For the love of god

Why is it only showing raw links

Decided to remove ā€œHide Detailsā€

And your interaction at EoD2 well

Iā€¦ well

I can clearly see you didnā€™t have many interactions with gortaā€¦?

But it sounds mostly like you were confused

If youā€™d return back in time who you wouldā€™ve lynched instead?

that was never a read i had
that was the point of my question is that i didnā€™t think you two were partnered which is why i asked them

@Marluxion

What is your readlist

Letā€™s bounce ideas off of each other

dont really have a traditional brain style readlist

i currently dont think we win if we kill ruby
i dont think we win if we kill leafia
i think we have a good chance of winning if we kill jarek or kiiruma

rest of you iā€™m relatively undecided on

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Actually let me see how Leafia was during my own game and how they managed to survive

but these are all for more reasons than just ā€˜i think leafia and ruby are goodā€™ or ā€˜i think jarek and kiiruma are evilā€™

i think leafia and ruby have been fairly CONSISTENT wheras jarek and kiiruma had the biggest shift in their posts from the start of game to today

i still think either leafia or ruby is luminary if i had to bet money on it, but knowing that for sure wonā€™t help me today

Gut reads generally are deja vu, things that youā€™ve seen before that makes you think ā€œhey, I saw that play beforeā€, this is usually gained with experience.

However even that can be wrong

im trying to prompt you to give your own thoughts on them and see where we disagree and then expand on where we differ
im not referring to specific posts
beyond that i was more precise on my thoughts on ruby/marl/hazard
why have you given me nothing on them?

i simply liked the way he responded to pressure and his general tone and solving in thread
i, again, dont have specifics for you

well, with my idea of it being leafia non-luminary, probably leafia? but part of my main worry about that yesterday was within that realm so
probably creature tbqh

note: today i think that in a leafia/creature scumteam, creature is more likely to be luminary, so dont even bother trying to quote this out of context