SCoD 68 - Ascendance of the Unshackled - Unshackled win

[Silviu200530]

How have you been!

[Creature]

VOTE: Gorta

[Kiiruma]

I’m guessing this is because you think Gorta is the most likely convert since otherwise the slot seems fairly townread? If you don’t mind me asking, why do you think it’s a better idea to pursue a convert rather than the original evil duo?

[Marluxion]

Imo it’s easier because the starting duo (specifically the original non luminary) is chosen by rng at start of game. For the convert, someone had to make the decision so you can try to reverse engineer the logic to find them. We no longer want to elim the luminary btw, because tomorrow is lylo if we do. We want to win today so we never get to locked votes hell. With that being said, limming the Lumi is still better than a villager.

[Marluxion]

That’s part of why I’m afraid of going for leafia, I think if she’s scum she’s probably luminary. Still waiting on her to check back in after being voted though.

[Jarek]

At the very very least if the luminary gets smacked today we can look at their interactions and have a good grip on who they might have gone for who they defended who they attacked ect. ect.

[Leafia]

@Gorta

@Leafia

True. It certainly would.

I was referring to your opening post here. Honestly it screams agenda

No it doesn’t but your shading post here does.

@Gorta

Let me rephrase that, it looks like a performance post

It’s a post trying to help figure out who was converted. Nothing more. Nothing less.

@Jarek

I think it’s likely only one of Kiiruma/Hazard are evil, one of which being the luminary the other of which being set up to die once the luminary is revealed

Just like how Frost was evil?

@Kiiruma

When I see people talking on here I somewhat hear it at the same time, it’s weird lol. Let’s try and solve but like… I don’t know why people are sussing me/Hazard for us being buddy buddy for example. We’re… friends. Like, it’s that simple.

So you’re saying you’re not friends with anyone else on here? j/k

@Hazardwaste

With other voting i dont know but i am sorta reading creature as good from that jump to jarek in the last seconds. i dont see a unshackled jumping away from a vote that would execute/tie.

I see an unshackled potentially doing that to avoid being on the wagon of a flipped villager.

@Jarek

Kiiruma says that hazard is a friend of theirs so that could explain that behaviour, but in a game like this it’s unfortunately fairly suspicious

Not necessarily.

@Marluxion

ashlyn, if town, was never the convert

Unlikely but not impossible. She seems villagery enough to me for now though.

@Marluxion

it’s time to bust out TIER LIST MAKER and make a conversion tier list

Way ahead of you. I already made one near SoD.

@Marluxion

My opinion is currently something like this I think

Seems we just about agree about Gorta right now. Ihated his reaction to my conversion tier lust. VOTE: Gorta

@Marluxion

Leafia (at least, the last i played with them, idk if they’ve improved or not) is a fucking spew geyser
converting her is like willingly stepping on a landmine

I’ve gotten a lot better at being scum and I was never exactly that bad at being scum. I personally think I would’ve at leas thg made for a decent N1 convert.

@Marluxion

Jarek is a super easy elim as vindication for killing obvtown frostwolf, cant risk him

He was hardly obvtown although he wasn’t exactly scummy.

@Silviu200530

You are very convertible aswell Marl

This would be true if I wasn’t in the game.

@Marluxion

not the convert
could be luminary or starting scum
exactly 1 post from them yesterday has me cautious of them

0% chance you actually believe this as a villager because I would’ve always converted you here to stop you from pushing on me.

@Gorta

I don’t like how Leafia came out with a conversion tier list right out of the gate

It’s because we need to talk about who the convert could be.

@Marluxion

this
feels like leafia is glad they pocketed me since i almost always scumread them

Seriously? Why can’t I just be a villager happy about the same thing? Which is exactly the case mind you.

@Jarek

If I was the luminary I would have converted you

I would’ve at least considered converting Gorta.

@Gorta

also a reason I don’t know why utr people weren’t higher on Leafia’s list

They are.

@Ruby

VOTE: Leafia

Can we just kill one of the starting wolfs this time thank you

Sure. Get your vote off of a villager first though.

@Ruby

She lied yesterday as i pointed out
not to mention she was trying to jump on almost any wagon and had me as a top scum for OMGUS reasons

I didn’t lie.

@Ruby

90% of her case on Ashlyn

I never lied about anything on it. I just said things as I saw them. Pretty sure Ruby is the luminary at this point. She clearly has wolfy agenda here.

@Marluxion

not really convinced honestly

That and she was nitpicking my iso heavily there.

@Marluxion

That’s part of why I’m afraid of going for leafia, I think if she’s scum she’s probably luminary. Still waiting on her to check back in after being voted though.

If I was luminary, I would’ve converted you last night. How you never learn to read me despite all my games with you is beyond me. Do you think I enjoy having you constantly scumreading me just for existing?

[Silviu200530]

Man I am being very sluggish

[Creature]

Alright idk but I was already planning to vote Gorta yesterday because he could be original convert + he’s most likely to be converted last night.

[Creature]

But things still feel like a crapshot.

[Creature]

Ftr yesterday I was like “damn look at Gorta he’s like the most ideal convert” but I stayed quiet to not drive the wolves away from converting Gorta.

[Gorta]

@Marluxion

i’ll wait and see how she responds before i come to a final conclusion though

that’s my mindset for everyone today

@Leafia

Seems we just about agree about Gorta right now. Ihated his reaction to my conversion tier lust. VOTE: Gorta

I wouldn’t hate your post if it wasn’t the first thing of any substance out of your mouth

[Gorta]

wow, really!!??

@Creature

but I stayed quiet to not drive the wolves away from converting Gorta.

this goes against your philosophy yesterday, which was “we should be making town reads, but reset them the next day”

[Gorta]

@Creature

but I was already planning to vote Gorta yesterday because he could be original convert + he’s most likely to be converted last night.

most likely isn’t likely, you are voting based on assumptions rather than todays posts

[Creature]

You were like the least suspected player yesterday so I kinda expected you would get converted the night after. Of course saying that out loud would probably make you less likely to get converted if you were originally town.

[Creature]

Perhaps. I guess I need to look at stuff better today but I am procrastinating so much.

[Gorta]

there are people I could push based on assumptions as well, but I would rather hear from everyone first

[Gorta]

@Gorta

I want to say I was in a good position to be a n1 convert, but also in a position to be a d2 mis-exe

@Gorta

basically if everyone thinks I could be converted someone goes “hey, this guy is most likely convert” and everyone else goes “yeah, I think so too” then bam you get a mis exe

@Gorta

meanwhile the actual convert could be utr (like ruby)

it’s literally this

[Gorta]

the perfect mindgame for a mis-exe

[Creature]

Alright but I guess maybe we can figure some names that likely wouldn’t be converted last night?