If you believe frustration is indicative of alignment, you need to learn to play the game. I think, just based on the way they have coordinated and defended each other, are obviously aligned and are not making attacks based on reasoned arguments but making shallow generalizations using cookie-cutter tells. To that extent my immediate reaction is they’re both scum together going all-in to push me.
This is the kind of thing that unfortunately only really becomes apparent when your back’s against the wall unfortunately and it’s less claer from an outside perspective.
To that end there’s no point in continuing to interact with them because they’re not trying to solve my alignment, just argue bullshit.
But as it is the people I need to convince aren’t in the thread (except for you, but you’re stumped and bellatrix is actively working to discredit you). I’m perfectly willing to hold a conversation with you and answer any questions you have still.