If you’re confident in Catbae being scum and Bella being town, convince me.
feel free to think that me/crich are werewolves pushing this
that doesnt mean that catbae isnt mafia :)
“this other person is being called a potential wolf i’m being insulted by this time to open up the great book of fallacies”
i’m down
From the EoD votes. Catbae didn’t care about figuring out SDA and Trochi when they were the top wagons at EoD1. They were also voting the counter wagon to flipped mafia twice in a row.
Also, Catbae never to my knowledge tried to push on any of the flipped mafia when push came to shove.
Bellatrix is way more likely to be town than Catbae, as their thoughts have been consistently similar with mine the entire game and the way they pushed on Porscha came across as towny.
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I also think that my d2 progression on crich from town suddenly swing to wolf then back to town again is outside of my wolfrange to do to a partner but thats purely off my word so take that as you will
She literally isn’t and a villager would never say this.
i think they’re both most likely scum, the issue being I think bloodsucker can kill and use factional in the same night if I understand the role
I think aelin is probably mechanically town and good on play, I had townreads on jarek and moose but not necessarily bet the game strength (and moose is a venge so I think you just vote her in 4p if she’s there?)
them going all out on me today makes sense if they believe they can win overnight which they’d only need 2 to do
so I think a vote there is fine
Catbae has less reasons to be town than I do.
I think you’re deliberately ignoring my points on Catbae.
the sad thing is maybe they really do believe I’m mafia but I’m just lazy town 
update: don’t feel free because then youll want to kill me
abort
Wrong. Catbae has way more reasons to be town than you do but I think I’ll stay out of all these discussions for now.
Oh really? For someone who is so sure Catbae is town, you seem unwilling to provide them when they’re in the hot seat.
Honestly
I think Catbae and CRichard are both unaligned scum tbh
Did you not see how Leafia talked to me as though I’m an idiot who didn’t know what’s going on?
How is that not an insult?
Catbae is almost definitely on their own if they’re scum so they’re just…not really that much of a problem atm? CRichard can easily be aligned with Bella so this is where I stand atm
You want to treat me like this, then I’m down with being executed. I’m not interested in playing if you’re going to insult me and think that’s ok.
my response to leafia–
I think youre tunneled incorrectly on me/crich which is ~fine
I just think that occams razor says that theres another mafia in the game mechanically (+only two people choosing mafia cards and more people choosing werewolf cards is bizzare)
and no matter what brush i try to paint this game with, the most suspicious person here is catbae
votecount analysis? catbae has been wolfsiding the most consistently
holistic mindset/game approach? catbae is the only one I’ve noticed visibly struggling to explain reads in a forced way
spew wise? catbae has no clearing interactions with flipped wolves going for him in a spot where most of the game does
The simplest answer for why I’m not mafia actually is: I never make either kill last night, I’d be trying to shoot the other mafia faction
I have no reason to fear intensify because he wouldn’t be able to guilty me and would guilty the other faction
Italy is a useless role and less likely to be scum in my view
so both of those kills would be insanely dumb fmpov is fake
If I could kill belllatrix any time I wanted I wouldn’t be having this argument today