SFoL 70: Last Stand of the Virtuous IV - Night 2 (13/19)

[Ash]

Well, I know what I’m doing for the next three hours.

[Ash]

It was supposed to end in 250 minutes, but because of Jarek’s thing, that got extended by 24 hours.
It ends Sunday 1 AM GMT.

[Gorta]

and we are here again

[Gorta]

I saw something about tutuu open wolfing?

[PlagueSimp]

2023-11-12T01:00:00Z

[PlagueSimp]

Tmrw at 8pm my time, good to know

[Apocryphal]

Tuutu is currently being vibe checked as wolf

[fraZ0R]

so is apoc

[Gorta]

Litten was under the impression that Ash is the other BD from d1, which is why I am probably voting there

[Gorta]

and they basically soft defend Gojc, while pushing May

[Apocryphal]

This is wrong

[Apocryphal]

Simply put a skill issue

[PlagueSimp]

[Apocryphal]

Fascinating

[LastAssassin]

An integrity breach has occurred. Please bear with us while we decide what to do.

THE GAME WILL NOT BE RERANDED

[LastAssassin]

The breach has been handled. The game continues

[otterpopd]

@May

fraZ0R has such a thorough coating of fraZ0R on every single thing that it does that I cannot read it effectively on D1 without context.

^^ this

@May

Strangeweird + I want the game to coalesce into something real so I want to have real wagons

this feels like sick may. sick may is like may but they’re sick. you must be patient with sick may because they’re a good mafia player but bad at explaining things. nirmal may is like this also but this feels like an illcore post

@May

Okay think about it this way. If I knew opening by posting regularstyle instead of replying to someone was one of my scumtells, why would I replicate it on purpose in a scumgame? “As a double bluff” a double bluff is significantly less effective than simply not bluffing at all. You can see clearly that if it were a double bluff, it would not have worked! I am an incredibly L0 scum player, I do not give a shit about double or triple bluffs, I don’t bus, I don’t do anything. I think almost every instance of Fancy, Complicated scumplay is simple FPSing

this isn’t… wrong? But I distrust analysis of your own play on principle. which is something I picked uyp from may. hope this helps

@May

I’m saying there isn’t a world where I did it and realised retroactively because I was provably, actively thinking about this particular tell of mine, like, a day before the game began. You know exactly how obsessed I am with improving myself.

yea

@May

I’m indignant about this not so much because it’s getting me suspected, but because the conception of the me where I do this as scum is just fundamentally incorrect . I am the most L0 player on the planet! I Hate Bussing! I Hate Bluffing! My goal is to sound as towny as possible at all times and to have as much influence as possible at all times and push as much agenda as possible at all times and I am convinced as Icarus that this will win me every scumgame and this is why I get reverse swept.

yea

@May

I used to wallpost a ton as town, but I slowly fell off it as I’ve deteriorated as a player. When I first randed scum, I was very very good at convincingly faking wallposts, but struggled to sound casual in thread, and also still kind of conceptualised myself as a wallposty player even though that was no longer true, so people took it as a scumtell of mine to make long posts. I, obviously, noticed this, and proceeded to have 3 consecutive scumgames where I leaned extremely hard on being a pathetic little polarised kitten posting one-liners and being obviously town for not putting in effort. This worked. I doubt it will continue working

another “as scum i play like this” post may i dont like these stop. stop it

@May

I just go “okay what would make me win Immediately Right Now” and pursue that singlemindedly at all times. As scum. I have no patience for long-term gambits. I am the most Fuck It We Ball player on the planet. I still remember one exchange I had with Lukundo in a scum chat like “uh, what’s your plan to handle tomorrow after you hammered that TPR?” and I went “No plan” and then proceeded to not only survive that day but make myself somehow considered locktown in half of everyone’s eyes?

all of these posts remind me that I need to rand wolf with may sometime weve never randed wolf together. I won’t go into it because it’s the exact thing I’m criticizing may for

@May

Mahjong causes great damage to the human spirit without a single benefit.

im sending this to ivy

@May

Awesome VOTE: PrettyPrincess

we have a player with this problem on my home site, and it is not. my favorite. activity.

@May

Tutuu is towny for getting demotivated by the game sucking

may says this as if i didnt just (niche internet drama that none of you are privy to)

@May

fraZ0R can you see why I act differently here. This is the opposite of how Nintendo Loop usually goes

may is acting the same. these are may activities. he doesn’t play the exact same but he’s like saying may things. and doing them forever. frazor you are wrong

@May

Post restrictions are yuri. And you’re doing yuri both with the other players in the game when you’re post restricted, and with the post restriction itself

@May

fraZ0R TMIed that the game is ending today VOTE: Gorta

was there an explanation for this post. no? awesome

@May

Trying to read this game feels like being buried under large amounts of pillow and blanket. Like any conversation had here is a little suffocated by posts

she keeps posting things that are not reads that i agree with and i’m trying not to fall into the “this makes us alligned” trap because i just almost lost a game like this. i cant read may i hang out with may too much

@May

I’ve been openly gay for ten years

may softclaiming det here

@May

@Magnus

May is outed because:

• Playing like evil. Posting in thread for the sake of being here.
• Before then, she was lurking and frozen.
• He suspected me of being weird, and then never responded directly to my vote before townreading me again (???).
• Kinda just trying to survive through the day (Happy to kill Gocj).
• Begging for Litten to townread them. v!May last game went out of their way to try and avoid Litten’s instant read.

Your read is so L1

combined with the earlier insistance that she’s a L0 player this could just be site culture but we were just talking about jargon yk idk

@May

I am posting in thread for the sake of being here because everybody else is , it’s a 4000-post game with very little actual content. I was “lurking and frozen” because I am playing my heart out in another game I can’t give details about because fraZ0R is in it. I suspected you of being weird at first because I couldn’t follow your logic, but rereading your posts made some level of sense and I think your instant move to kill me instead of trying to get me to townread you is towny. I’m happy to kill Gocj because I think they easily could be evil, as I mentioned several times before. I am begging for Litten to townread me because I am actually in danger of dying , unlike last game around, and I actively went out of my way to avoid the instant read by not opening with a reply.

i like this defense though

@May

@frZ0R Does town May make random votes with little explanation

you used to make up a fake reason mostly but i can buy this as an evolution of your playstyle and also there was that time where you as town voted me out while reading me as town because it gave you a read on literally everyone else in the game during the EoD wagon shuffle

@May

I don’t know any of their names… let me check my list of discovered abnormalities

my doctor

@May

Hm. I’m thinking about it. Magnus voting me off of using a line identical to one of my scumgames and citing that as their #1 reason most of a day later just doesn’t feel, like… correct. Proper. It feels like “oh I can push this” much more than a genuine reasoning. But they did move off of me and onto Amelia with proper timing. So I’ll let that slide for now. Magnus why are you so easy to let slide

making a read and then immediately backing off is wolfy

@May

For the record this is not out of character for either of us

agree

@May

@fraZ0R

hazard if you think im scum so much then place a vote on me

@fraZ0R

unless you want to intentionally stay in this wishywashy state of sussing me but not voting

fraZ0R I know you I know this is how you normally act this isn’t wolfy at all but it’s also the wolfiest thing anyone’s ever said. You understand?

this is my reaction to frazor all the time 100% of the time forever & ever & ever & always

@May

You and I know what “gamestate” means because I did an extended bit of saying exclusively “_vote_explain game_state” every time I placed a vote. This is not standard terminology. You can explain yourself better by saying something along the lines of:
“I prefer to have counterwagons at EoD because it forces scum to make real decisions - having one runaway wagon, even if I believe that the player is scum, makes their wolfbuddies think that their case is lost and act nearly identical to townies. Two competing wagons, especially under the time pressure of EoD, forces the wolves to decide whether to bus or try to save their partner, and that’s much more informative to see than simple complacence. I can move back onto the target I truly believe is most likely to flip scum before day actually ends.”

I also know this bit

@May

Anyway VOTE: GoldenOne He completely ignores Gocj when they were being sussed very early on the day and then suddenly pivots to hard scumreading & tunnelling them when it seems like they’re inevitably going over it’s soooo buslooking

this is my slot so i know i’m not wolf but i also agree with may here. Sad! replacing into games is so complicated

@May

Another one of my Splatoon teammates falls to riichi mahjong

@May

4/7 converted

im one of the 4 right

in conclusion i have no fucking idea what may is. May is fluff in my hands. I find myself in a weird position where I’m just like feeling… off? May isn’t acting weird may is acting too normal it feels like. does that make sense. i know she’s been having a bad week but like. call it a gut feeling. im not moving my vote though.
in conclusion

@May

Scumreading me is fine! Simply do not feel bad for me! It is easy!

[LastAssassin]

tutuu (3): snowe, Zorvo, Apocryphal
Apocryphal (3): Magnus, fraZ0R, PlagueSimp
NoExeGladiate (1): Magnus
Unvote (1): otterpopd
Amelia (1): Jarek
Hazardwaste (1): tutuu
fraZ0R (1): PrettyPrincess

Not Voting (6): Hazardwaste, Gorta, May, Frostwolf103, Amelia, Ash