I don’t rlly wanna go px, I isoed them this morning and I felt their defense of Jamie was pretty towny
Unless someone knows them better and they’re the type of wolf to do smth like that
Accurate
Also, fuck it, Story isn’t getting chopped today it seems. FUNNY CHAOS MAN RALLY! VOTE: Homiecat
Homie/Rose never w/w lol
bc funny…? even if you think im the best option you should defend your points
First off
I think the way sulit handled her first vote onto Caitlin feels super pure
She started off just singing a bunch of Wham songs until this exchange happened:
Sulit's vote on Caitlin
This in and of itself is not necessarily towny, but I think what pushes it over the line for me is how she reacts to Luka’s vote on Caitlin shortly afterwards:
And like
I really think it’s a good look for sulit to be actively questioning the people making the same vote she is currently making
Most scum would probably not think to take a moment to inquire about somebody actively voting with them (and, mind you, it’s not like she was asking a lot of questions, which makes this even stronger imo). Instead, they’d be focused on making their votes seem natural and like they’re following a process - questioning the most strongly-worded accusation of the person you yourself are voting is almost the polar opposite of that.
I also think her approach to this game in general has just been super pure. Stuff like this:
I literally cannot see as being within sulit’s scumrange unless somebody wants to pop in and tell me she has gone from being literally frozen in her scum games to being the most natural, comedic-under-pressure slot in this entire game.
She also keeps this general tone up through basically the entire game. I could pull literally any quote of hers and there’s like a 50% chance it falls under this umbrella.
The next bit of the game shows consistency of thought that I generally associate with town
She unvotes Caitlin and begins to sus pyxxy
When nobody asks her about this in a few minutes and ~20 posts, she follows up:
To which I finally actually engage:
and to which she responds:
This is basically her last post here, five minutes later she just says she’s gonna go study for her final and leaves.
In and of itself, that’s not a super telling exchange; however, it’s in the context of her return that I think this goes from “I think the indignation that nobody questioned her pyxxy vote is kinda towny” to “The consistency of her thoughts about the game across large stretches of time is towny”
And it starts with a few posts I haven’t yet covered:
sulit on tutuu
and later, in the middle of the above exchange:
These posts all show sulit taking an active interest in what tutuu is saying, which is notable because upon her real return to the thread 12 hours later (split only by her popping in to explain why she is busy that evening and not participating more directly) the first thing she does is hop immediately to tutuu’s defense when he was top wagon:
Votecount as of post #1022
tutuu (3): orangeandblack5, Litten, Treasure
Luka (2): Caitlin, pyxxy
Leafia (1): Garfooled
TodaysStory (1): tutuu
pyxxy (1): homiecat
Garfooled (1): Leafia
Litten (1): LukaNot Voting (5): PrincessAbigail, RoseRedWitch, JamieIsBored, TodaysStory, Hazardwaste
She then immediately reaches out to this person she just called town to ask about her previous scumread, pyxxy, in a way that, if they answer affirmatively, might weaken her position in voting him:
This shows that the thoughts she had about pyxxy and tutuu earlier have really been sticking with her even while she was not in the thread - it would be very easy for a wolf that isn’t sticking around long to drop a wall defending tutuu, but following that up with asking tutuu if he is able to provide insight into pyxxy that might make sulit change her mind is like super towny. She is actively trying to avoid mislynches by seeking ways to paint even her current suspect as potentially town, while extending an olive branch to the top wagon at the time.
This is pretty fucking townie already but it gets even better. I’ll expand more on that in the next section. For now, back to the cognitive consistency across the middle of D1:
After her final, she continues to wrangle with her tutuu read while simultaneously defending him:
Defending tutuu from my take on him while also actively questioning him
This is an incredibly slick way to handle his slot if sulit is scum here, but a very natural way to handle him if she’s town who genuinely thinks he is town but is unsure of herself and always looking for more confirmation one way or the other.
She also then brings up pyxxy again, explaining that her read was never really that strong but she was hoping that voting him would cause him to do more things she could read.
She then says bye, but as soon as tutuu shows up she instead sticks around to follow up on that lead:
Sulit locking in tutuu townread
She has no obligation to do this. Yes, by this point tutuu is not a wagon, but she has generally been good about saying “bye” and then actually immediately leaving. Sticking around to chat with tutuu and lock in an actual townread on him through clearing up her concerns with his actions is eminently towny, especially when it flies in the face of my current stated read on tutuu at the time and she goes out of her way to rub that in.
Really, though, the towniest thing sulit has done here is cut off literally all of her easy options for lynches. Consistently and very nearly without fail, sulit is present to advocate against lynching towny slots that are being run up.
We first saw this with the defense of tutuu when he was top wagon, but this was further reinforced when she brought up feeling towny pings from both Garfooled and Luka, who were both top wagons at the time she did so:
Votecount as of post #1558
Garfooled (3): Leafia, TodaysStory, JamieIsBored
Luka (2): pyxxy, PrincessAbigail
Litten (2): RoseRedWitch, Treasure
tutuu (1): orangeandblack5
Leafia (1): Garfooled
pyxxy (1): homiecat
orangeandblack5 (1): Caitlin
TodaysStory (1): tutuu
PrincessAbigail (1): LukaNot Voting (2): Hazardwaste, Litten
Votecount as of post #1710
Luka (3): pyxxy, Leafia, Hazardwaste
Garfooled (3): TodaysStory, JamieIsBored, Treasure
Treasure (2): orangeandblack5, Litten
Litten (1): RoseRedWitch
Leafia (1): Garfooled
pyxxy (1): homiecat
orangeandblack5 (1): Caitlin
TodaysStory (1): tutuu
PrincessAbigail (1): LukaNot Voting (1): PrincessAbigail
Although not the top wagon, this is also basically true of Treasure, who I was wagoning for acting weird around reading others (when in all actuality it’s probably just seth being seth), which sulit pretty definitively shut down:
This is the sickest townread in the entire game and nothing else comes close. She then follows it up nearly immediately with another absolute banger:
This post is where I stopped my ISO initially and dropped my hardshield.
Let’s review the VC real quick:
Votecount as of post #1771
Luka (3): pyxxy, Leafia, Hazardwaste
Garfooled (3): TodaysStory, JamieIsBored, Treasure
Treasure (2): orangeandblack5, Litten
Litten (1): RoseRedWitch
Leafia (1): Garfooled
pyxxy (1): homiecat
orangeandblack5 (1): Caitlin
TodaysStory (1): tutuu
PrincessAbigail (1): LukaNot Voting (1): PrincessAbigail
Sulit has voiced townreads and an unwillingness to push Luka, Garfooled, and now Treasure. This is, quite literally, shutting herself off from pushing all three of the top wagons with under 12 hours in the day. Even I, who generally lives as scum to control the thread, would be fucking scared shitless of roping myself off of touching any of the top three wagons. Even if we assume one of them is scum, closing off the others as a possibility to counterwagon just makes keeping whichever scum is being run up alive so much harder for no good reason.
I do not think sulit believes this is ever a good idea to do if she is scum unless the team is like exactly her/Garfooled/Luka…
…but in that case why would you point out the Treasure post?
Okay, let’s try again.
I do not think sulit believes this is ever a good idea to do if she is scum unless the team is like exactly her/Luka/Treasure…
…but in that case, why do you bring up Garfooled again here, when your earlier read on him was so weak and you could just make up a reason it’s changed?
Alright, final try.
I do not think sulit believes this is ever a good idea to do if she is scum unless the team is exactly her/Garfooled/Treasure.
Okay, this one might work, right? Surely she doesn’t come back in a few hours to immediately defend Luka or anything, right?
Votecount as of post #1811
Luka (5): pyxxy, Leafia, Hazardwaste, Caitlin, RoseRedWitch
Garfooled (3): TodaysStory, JamieIsBored, Treasure
Treasure (3): orangeandblack5, Litten, Garfooled
pyxxy (1): homiecat
TodaysStory (1): tutuu
PrincessAbigail (1): LukaNot Voting (1): PrincessAbigail
Okay, well surely she doesn’t keep that up until EoD?
Welp.
I guess this just leaves the possibility that sulit is so confident that exactly zero of the wolves are in any danger whatsoever that she’s willing to risk trying to shake up the entire wagon structure and just hope that it doesn’t backfire by coming down on a partner somewhere else?
Yeah, frankly, I’m not buying it.
And sure, her ending up shifting to Jamie, who we know now to be town, isn’t exactly the best ending to her day. However, I think the fact that she shifts there only by coming around to pyxxy being town is pretty easy to read as more points in her favor. Scum!sulit does not need to drop the pyxxy push and start repping him as town in order to push Jamie, or even anyone else for that matter.
Plus, if we’re looking for the silver lining of that EoD, if TodaysStory ever ends up flipping red, it looks incredibly good for sulit, and if Luka/Achro is green that just hardclears her.
So yeah, I don’t think her ISO is perfect or anything, but she has consistently and for the entire game been dropping genuinely good, well-thought-out townreads on slots under heavy suspicion. I would even go so far as to say that she is one of the main reasons @Achromatic is alive right now - and although I think you could paint this as her saving a partner, him trying to dunk her right now for no real reason makes that really hard to believe is the case.
So yeah, this is town, BTFO.
Votecount as of post #4133
homiecat (5): Caitlin, baker, Achromatic, Treasure, RoseRedWitch
Hazardwaste (1): Litten
Caitlin (1): orangeandblack5
pyxxy (1): Leafia
RoseRedWitch (1): pyxxyNot Voting (4): Garfooled, TodaysStory, Hazardwaste, homiecat
This votecount should be setting off fucking MASSIVE alarm bells in everyone’s heads.
no goddamn shot do we get to 3.5 hours before deadline on Day 2 with 5 votes on scum!sulit and no more than one vote anywhere else with people just lying down and taking it
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I will now catch up but we are heading towards maybe the worst sleepwalk mislynch I’ve ever seen and the fact that Achro is enabling it is truly disappointing
@Caitlin
@baker
@Achromatic
@Treasure
@RoseRedWitch
Each of you needs to either claim scum, admit you’re throwing, or move your vote to somebody who isn’t blatantly town.
Buddy I’m just following Achro bc commitment to the bit at this point.
also this post draws conclusions that are in line with her former weighting of material when discerning alignments
I still think it’s wrong but like it’s very very consistent with how sulit has been acting all game in a way that has consistently felt like lacking agenda
I hate this, especially when:
But they had time to ISO specifically PX this morning.
Why aren’t you, Homie and Pyxxy the wolf team?
Stop.
They aren’t blatantly town lmao.
I can vote you or Pyxxy instead though.
If you start a wagon on Pyxxy I’ll follow in pursuit.
Why would Homie say that all of Luka/you/Garfooled/tutuu are town and try to convince people that pyxxy is scum, in that world?
Nobody ever really took her up on that push, but if anybody had agreed with her (not unlikely if pyxxy is actually scum) we could very easily be in a world where she just saved four town wagons to instead lynch pyxxy
Disprove my wall point by point then.
Until and unless you do that, they are blatantly town.
People and going to do what people want to do.
Why do they need to stop unless you don’t think Achro is town?
I accepted the fact earlier they were going to sheep Achro and I acknowledged that we probably won’t be getting a hit today, but they did surprise me and voted Story so hey.
It’s not just Rose there has been others as well that doesn’t look like they care to try right now.