Starcraft Overhaul FM - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)

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#261

I’m of the opinion that -EV roles should be claimed or at least softed D1, if you legitimately have the potential to harm Town by withholding this info (weighing out the chances of being attacked at night instead), so I’m going to say that I may or may not have a soft n0 greencheck relating to this:

Anyway, my priority D1 is always to attain information, execute a player you won’t be able to read later, as opposed to actually sniping an evil. Even now, I’m not looking to execute anyone in particular; that comes later.
VOTE: May, because I remember May said he liked being pushed one game or something, performing under pressure? I don’t really mind, I don’t think May a good axe candidate but why shouldn’t I go with this? It’s a double whammy, also helps with reading Jarek.

#262

Okay, so Jarek, you think Magnus is town and Eliza and I are wolves jumping on the case together - what do you think of Zorvo and Jaiden’s involvement, and anyone else who has commented? If you had to tinfoil two partners for us, who would they be? Apologies if you’ve mentioned this already, trying to use my brain feels like walking through mud right now… already took melatonin for the night, so I’m a bit past the point where I can properly think.

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#263

Your partner(s) probably aren’t online yet, tbh. Jaiden could be one, Zorvo doesn’t feel like one. Tbh I think it’s just you two and the other wolves are elsewhere watching. At best. One of you at worst.

#264

I do like being voted - combination of performing under pressure and having a wagon on a known townie (myself) to analyze - but I can’t say I’m a big fan of when people hear this fact and vote me about it… I’ve been successfully pocketed by people doing this before, and while I know that’s mostly my fault for being so vulnerable to something so blatant… still makes me a bit suspicious.

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#265

I’ve never pocketed you before though, so it’s fine.

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#266

This isn’t an accusation against Magnus, I still soft TR them for now, mostly just a complaint about how I’ve been so fucking got before, and a warning to anyone who might think to also do this.

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#267

Alright, Magnus, opinions on the current state of the game? If Jarek is evil, who of the people who’ve interacted with this case are most likely to be partnered with them? And, of course, the same if Jarek is good.

My instinct to further progress the gamestate is to build a secondary read off my vote here and stop revolving everything around this one person, and I’ve been trying that for some time now, but it’s… not working, I think I’ll need to wait until the morning to have enough brainpower to do something I believe. Perhaps part of the problem is that I want to actually believe in the case, I should know better than that.

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#268

Oh, right, everything can be outsourced. What’s everyone’s current strongest read that’s not Jarek (or me, because I can’t read myself)? Townread, scumread, or, preferably, both. I won’t necessarily sheep it, but I’d love to hear opinions.

#269

That’s because I’m not a wolf so I have no idea what anyone else is

#270

A secondary read off a vote on you doesn’t require you to be a wolf. It doesn’t even have anything to do with you. It’s literally just going “okay, how did everyone react to this wagon, and are any of those reactions standout or unnatural”. Just as easy to spot a wolf hopping on (or strategically staying off of) a townie wagon as it is a wolf wagon.

#271

The game thread’s slow. Approximately half the thread’s shown up. Our votes are spread out, and we only have a few cases due to the number of limited suspects. I’m inclined to agree with Jarek that a few evils haven’t appeared yet, and this is just Town schizophrenia. I disagree that you and Eliza are both evil, there’s no way you both pile onto a random read like that. One of you, sure. But surely not both.

Jaiden could be soft aligned with Jarek, Cape could be aligned with Jarek (but I don’t think those two are necessarily partnered together unless Cape’s a tryhard… Zorvo’s apparently a hellbusser, which almost makes me think he isn’t aligned with Jarek… softly.

More specifically, I don’t think Marluna’s claim makes sense, Neon seems good but she could really go either way, it’s just that she’s a cool person that I want to townread her but that’s not how it works.

I don’t like Lemon’s posts, I don’t like the spirit of Jarek’s response but he’s going about it in a way I like…? After UFO though, I don’t know how much stock I can put into that read.

Realised I’m stupid. I need to write notes for myself, but I know I won’t.
VOTE: Marluna. This needs to be an option.

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#272

You can’t just claim diplomat and not expect to be tested at some point or another. Even if today’s not the day, it’s gotta happen sooner or later.

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#273

It’s actually not a terrible role for Town.
If you’re “executed”, you’re confirmed and so Mafia needs to waste a night killing you. Being a Miller simply encourages Town to execute you. The whole purpose of Marluna’s role is to die when she is killed.

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#274

Marluna’s diplomat claim makes absolutely no sense to me and I just kinda… dismissed it when I saw it. I’ve been banned by my peers from any kind of role speculation since before I even played on FoL, but… like, there’s no way that’s real, there’s no way we’re even intended to think that’s real… right?

#275

I could buy Diplomat as real in a rolemadness, just unlikely.
I could buy Miller, especially since false info wasn’t mentioned as not existing in the OP.
Both in one role, though? …If you were going to make any role a Miller, what would you choose? Surely a powerful role which won’t penalise Town too much for your death?

Or it’s a fakeclaim, refuge in audacity.

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#276

Can’t wait for someone to claim Death Miller one game.
“I’m not Mafia, I’ll just flip that way.”

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#277

Mafia could have a vote thief again.
And Marluna’s relying on that to support a Diplomat claim.

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#278

I’m JOAT Fruit Vendor Death Miller, the realest, most legitimate role in the world.

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#279

Remember to add the Multitasking modifier for added realism.

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#280

Magnus drops from voting May will be noted.

Also, I haven’t seen May wolf yet so I’ll need to see if this game is different from May’s previous games and if it is… well.

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