Starcraft Overhaul FM - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)

Jaiden’s a real investigative, we know that since she knew I didn’t roleblock her at daystart.
Silviu’s a real modposter, we know that from SOD2.

…Having a prerequisite for a Cannoneer to justify the N1 kill, while it’s possible, doesn’t seem especially plausible (imo). I’ll keep an open mind, I’ll look at their socials, but I think that’s a tight hoop we’d need to jump through.

@beancat unless you killed Lemon? You would’ve claimed that SOD, probably, but it’s worth an ask.

Mafia on the block wouldn’t simply resign because they came across an issue. Neon did a good job at lying low, after all. Just look at which players have been the least townie or something.

first kill was Jarek

i have a pretty hard restriction so

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So yeah, I think Mafia Cannoneer is a non-factor.
I’m gonna be honest, abilities which require the death of another Mafia (while making for a nice comeback mechanic) are probably bad design by hurting Town more for doing what they’re supposed to do, which is hunt Mafia.

VOTE: Zorvo

His idea is just too crazy.

@Magnus
What do you think of the chances, that mafia attacked Italy, and you saved them?

There is always a possibility that mafia didn’t attack the obvious targets, because they were afraid of the watcher checking them.
(even though you meant to jailkeep the watcher…)

i’ve run the numbers and magnus is always the same alignment as cloned but not vice versa
and obviously i am the inverse of cloned’s alignment 100%
so this is basically the best descriptor lynch
if cloned is mafia, kill magnus
if cloned is town, kill me

Mafia would be close to throwing in that world.
I said I was jailing Jaiden, but sure; let’s imagine they didn’t want to attack either myself or Cape for whatever reason.

Killing Italy, if he was Town, only confirms CRichard’s role; that quite possibly makes Italy one of the least likely players to get attacked last night.

Good to know.

Zorvo would be a pretty good kill to make, in all honesty.

Here’s my question back to you: what are the chances that either Zorvo, Jarek or Bean would’ve been executed today if nothing interesting happened last night? Independently.
And do you believe anyone else would’ve been on the block?

Well again with my Marluna theory.

Marluna didn’t vote out Neon till after Lemon died.

LOL

LOL

I wanna vote Marluna but like.

It’s not that I’m trying to dismiss your theory out of hand, or anything, but there’s no tangible evidence to believe the existence of a conditional cannoneer unless I’m Mafia, since there’s no other “consistent” way for Mafia to miss their kills. It’s the same problem with assuming an arsonist, or really any neutral killer; you can’t really know until extra kills happen at night.

Imagine if Bean was NK.

yeah thats where I am at yes

you say also here

who is the other person neon pocketed that you are referring to here?

I was perhaps thinking that myself, what would this imply for the Magnus/Italy thing?

Also I think beancat’s role is just not a thing that I find to be very possible in this setup

yeaaaah and i dont like that since I feel like silviu can obvtown but I don’t think he has this game really

I shouldn’t even have voted there in the first place. I had already implied the mistake of “oh if this one person says this one person is mafia, then one of them is town and one of them is mafia”

if this same shiz is happening with Magnus/Italy I just, I swear

but it was also just mechanically wrong for me to vote may too like wtf, he was my protection