Stratagem-13 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[Luka]

I have successfully dumb told and now I am lock town
nice gaming

[Garfooled]

Nah that could be faked
But that’s up to everyone to decide tbh
Fmpov I brought it up and you followed along

@Garfooled

Well… Does it even end considering roleblockers exist

@Luka

From my point of view, since I know I am good, if we go otter, roleblock eliza and abbi. If no kills then we can go in those and roleblock the other 2, therefor making the game auto. if killed then it must leave the only one that wasn’t roleblocked.

But I mean
Yeah I don’t know

Why otter > Eliza/Abbi/Me?

[Luka]

@Garfooled

Why otter > Eliza/Abbi/Me?

They havent made a good post so far

[Garfooled]

Have you read Caitlin?

[Luka]

OH THATS CAITS SLOT

[Luka]

oh theyre twon its eliza abbi F

[Luka]

VOTE: Princess
They’re scum reading me which is kinda a sin
okay our kill is decided gonna go play ror2 bye

[otterpopd]

@Luka

Leafia is town
VOTE: Guav

@guavagudetama

How does Leafia being town lead to a vote on me

@Luka

Good question

fantastic start

@Luka

I just. don’t like being voted. Personal policy and a really petty one

i remember (reading) this. slight ATE trying to make ppl feel bad for voting them

@Luka

@Manaphy

• I am pretty sure you made the same “my vote was nai” arguement, in your last game where you were a wolf

It was a self vote and it was + whos alt are you I already asked

deflecting

@Luka

@Manaphy

P.S. All votes can be read into, calling a portion of the game random, does not exclude votes or posts from being read into. Sorry to burst your bubble

This is incorrect

no this is very correct

@Luka

Agent / Cait not TvT since I think manaphy / abbi / leafia / guava all GTH town
Its silly logic and bad logic but none the less

in hindsight, this reads like using TMI to push agenda.

@Luka

Kinda going for Guava + Agent scum team
Cait + Abbi + Leafia + Manaphy I can remember reasons to think are town
Neb + Beancat need more content from but both of them are cute
Eliza is GTH twon just due to general thread vibes
I thought joycat was town for some reason that I forgot

630 posts in and they’ve already pushed a scumteam composed entirely of players who sus them. awesome. also noting “GTH town due to vibes”

@Luka

@ElizaThePsycho

@Luka why do you townread me

For Eliza’s ISO, I’m going to go over a few things. Asking why somebody town reads you shows wariness of a pocket; while easily replicated by an experienced player on its own its fairly townie.

@ElizaThePsycho

Sooo this read is fake right

Designed to get the game out of RVS

Questioning the thought process behind reads rather than just tinfoiling on them being reads themselves is townie as well; generally speaking as scum id normally just jump out accuusing a bad read rather than thinking of the context behind why it was made.

@ElizaThePsycho

If it was fake to get the game out of RVS then I’d understand

Similar thing to the above for hear, questioning the read and semi defending me in a non pockety wolfy way from my POV.

@ElizaThePsycho

bro ive formulated like ONE READ and now so much time has passed

This is also fairly townie, by the way. At the very least kinda expressing dismay at how the game has gone and youre town game so far. This is def townie.

@ElizaThePsycho

which is good enough i guess

Fairly townie wall post, kind of elaborating on reads and explaining the vote process, as well as some things that are just townie. Looking over it a tiwnie bit,

@ElizaThePsycho

this is probably not w/w with Leafia

@ElizaThePsycho

this is not w/w with joycat

These two jump out the most in that as scum there’s not much reason to unpair players, especially a player your pushing. Not trying to conf bias on them being scum. So basically townie :v.

They dont have much else, but overall this slot is incredibly townie. I disagree with the thought process of you cant find anything in this ISO, or this slot is null. This slot 100% has the content to be read, and I’m giving it a solid town.

:/ :/ :/ :/ formulating luka eliza scum world

@Luka

How does the vote annoyance genuinly ever feel like its coming from a wolf what
What wolf would have an incentive to bring 9 biillion pounds of attention on there slot

I have explained before why that felt wolfy, now for the response feeling wolfy: This feels like a wolf who is being mad that their play didn’t work and/or at being sussed for the “wrong” thing

@Luka

Im so obviously town why is nobody seeing it

this is literally the definition of lamist.

@Luka

Meta, funnily enough. which. I suppose that would make sense why nobody is finding me

I hate defenses based on personal meta so much. I hate them. Knowledge of your own personal meta and tells isn’t a defense, it’s an acknowledgement that you know what you have to do to blend in as wolf. “simply act like you do when you’re town” is hard advice, but any one game can be the one where someone takes it, even someone who’s normally polarized. I find these defenses scummier than saying nothing TBH

@Luka

All wagons are town
Wolves are running away to this
All roads lead to abbi
VOTE: PrincessAbigail

tmi

@guavagudetama

So like
Who do you think her partner is

@Luka

wait no abbi is town
nvm UNVOTE

immediately backing off when asked to formulate a world

@Luka

I have a problem as town where I cannot see pushes towards me in good faith
This tell doesnt work anymore since Ive noticed it

ONCE AGAIN LUKA KNOWS THAT KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR META ISN’T A GOOD DEFENSE BUT THEY USED IT ANYWAY EARLIER JESUS CHRIST

@Luka

For now we always go outside of the PRs imo
If we flip a wolf outside game is auto since roleblockers and we have like 5 town

this is finally a reason to tr luka, wolf who knows that all three are town would push one and kill another to hopefully get the third ML

@Luka

Joycat kill confirms me fwiw

@Luka

I would never kill joycat there

… and back to defending yourself based on “i would never do that as wolf”.

@Luka

Okay so
We know that we have two town, in Leafia and Guava
This leaves Me, You, Otter, Eliza, and Abbi
2/5 scum are in there.
From my point of view, since I know I am good, if we go otter, roleblock eliza and abbi. If no kills then we can go in those and roleblock the other 2, therefor making the game auto. if killed then it must leave the only one that wasn’t roleblocked.
It’s the same for everybody else’s POV.
Well- I guess it depends on what exactly the priority is for mafia roleblocker

trying to direct TPRs is bad. Also the kill is via GM iirc nobody is considered sent on it.

@Luka

I’m so sorry! I should probably go back to this. I just- feel as though- I’m not doing enough… im a disgrace…

@Luka

I- I can’t do anything right…

…joke? ate?

@Luka

I have successfully dumb told and now I am lock town

…

[Luka]

@otterpopd

remember (reading) this. slight ATE trying to make ppl feel bad for voting them

How is that ate

[Luka]

@otterpopd

deflecting

What

[Luka]

@otterpopd

no this is very correct

No it’s not
First message of the game random vote by a town
Read into that

[Luka]

@otterpopd

in hindsight, this reads like using TMI to push agenda.

Lol

[Luka]

@otterpopd

630 posts in and they’ve already pushed a scumteam composed entirely of players who sus them. awesome. also noting “GTH town due to vibes”

I could give more. Also, the people who sus me could be wolf. Ever think of that. Gotcha

[Luka]

@otterpopd

formulating luka eliza scum world

Doesn’t explain why my reads are bad
Calls me Eliza scum team

[Luka]

@otterpopd

I have explained before why that felt wolfy, now for the response feeling wolfy: This feels like a wolf who is being mad that their play didn’t work and/or at being sussed for the “wrong” thing

Stop fucking underestimating me I wouldn’t do that as wolf

[Luka]

Mean post sorry

[Luka]

@otterpopd

and back to defending yourself based on “i would never do that as wolf”.

Congrats you have just described defending yourself

[Luka]

@otterpopd

this is literally the definition of lamist.

Fun fact: I have only ever been accused of lamist as a town
It doesn’t work as a tell

[Luka]

@Agentt while cute don’t like game related posts while dead plz

[Luka]

@otterpopd

tmi

No it’s called giving a read