Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[PrincessAbigail]

@Zugzwang

it’s also interesting how despite having cait/arctic/gar in their towncore they’re still considering luka, without mentioning the tell at all

I… literally talked about it.

I don’t need to bring it up every single time I’m thinking about it lol.

I rarely bring it up past my initial statement in any game I’ve ever played lol

[WindwardAway]

Don’t you love when people think you’re playing 4D chess when you’re actually not lol

[Luka]

Why dont any of my wall posts get this much love wtf
I like this in general.The logic honestly checks out and its clear thought was put into this.
Psyx town or specifically scum with cait. Leaning towards the former
(To be clear I dont agree with the logic like. super amazingly, cait is capable of faking caring about other reads on other people imo, but this can get both slots a town lean at the very least)
lol is still my POE meaning so I hate myself

[PrincessAbigail]

@Zugzwang

psure they meat the people you put in your town core

Well that’s why I asked for clarification

[PrincessAbigail]

@Psyx

Okay, after double-checking Cait’s towngame in Mountainous Arson, I feel confident that she’s town. I’ve observed that she’s more of a “wolfhunter” than a “townhunter”, and she tends to comment on how so-and-so/xyz post is sus esp during D1.

The way she reacts to Arctic & Luka in #391, #674, #677 — shoots back but doesn’t overexplain — feels as if she’s standing on solid ground (and not shifty/slimy in a way a wolf subconsciously does while finding their footing to gain better thread position/look better).

“Psyx, what do you mean by shift/slimy and how can you tell?” you might ask.

Well, if what Abbi mentioned earlier is correct, then Cait is the same type of player as me: someone who dislikes wolfing and prefers to play as vanilla townie.

This type of player tends to be super confident as town, but struggle to display the same boldness as wolf because they’re keenly aware that they’re “guilty”. Hence, these feelings of “guilt” are manifested when they are sussed — they try to “ convince ” the other person in a way where they’re actually trying to convince themselves.

I’m not picking up any of this in Cait’s ISO. Here she’s just blunt/snarky, brushes off the other person (in a “are-you-for-real” kind of way), and is more concerned about the other person than she is about herself/how people are seeing her.

I also like how she doesn’t seem to be hung-up on the people sussing her. I think wolf!Cait would ISO Arctic or Luka to get more ammunition/shield against them, instead of continuing making reads and commenting on other non-Abbi people.

How you just gonna say what I want to say 10x better than me…

[PrincessAbigail]

I wish I was good with words…

[Caitlin]

Abbi is imo just obvtown and shouldn’t be voted imo

To use a move she would do in her protection, I rather get voted out above Abigail then because I’m entirely sure we are TvT and we are both in the PoE

And maybe if I flip green ppl know they can trust Abigail

[Caitlin]

Like, ppl are giving Psyx praise now for towncasing me but so did Abigail earlier

[PrincessAbigail]

@Psyx

They’re the three most widely townread people from what I see.

Are they?

Honestly probably I think my perception of this game is excessively skewed honestly killing me d1 probably isn’t a bad play since I think my flip opens the game up a bit given my stance and place in this game so far

[Caitlin]

I also don’t think it’s AI at all that she doesn’t use the tell as much anymore

She also has already mentioned it like 1000 times this game so why not more lmao

[PrincessAbigail]

@Psyx

Nono, just those 6 people in your towncore.

Uhh that’s really hard for me but yeah give me a sec

[Caitlin]

Luka is a bit odd because iirc he complained about being annoyed over rolling town yet he posts wallpost after wallpost

The words don’t align with motivation

[Caitlin]

Unsure what to rlly say on it but I love Windy’s more recent posting and I’m p sure she is town now

[WindwardAway]

@Caitlin

Abbi is imo just obvtown and shouldn’t be voted imo

To use a move she would do in her protection, I rather get voted out above Abigail then because I’m entirely sure we are TvT and we are both in the PoE

And maybe if I flip green ppl know they can trust Abigail

I wasn’t aware Abbi was still consensus PoE but then again I haven’t been paying very close attention to this game

She’s a pretty solid townread for me already and I think both she and Psyx made reasonable towncases on you

[WindwardAway]

No idea what I said to change your mind, but thanks

[Caitlin]

@WindwardAway

No idea what I said to change your mind, but thanks

I think it helps that your newer posts all are very content heavy, whereas when I scumread you over 24h ago this wasn’t rlly the case yet (imo) - and your content is just good

[WindwardAway]

@Caitlin

Luka is a bit odd because iirc he complained about being annoyed over rolling town yet he posts wallpost after wallpost

The words don’t align with motivation

Imo it’s more likely towny because he could use it as an excuse to post less as scum and slip under the radar

[Caitlin]

@WindwardAway

I wasn’t aware Abbi was still consensus PoE but then again I haven’t been paying very close attention to this game

She’s a pretty solid townread for me already and I think both she and Psyx made reasonable towncases on you

Hm well she’s one of the tied for topwagon so I consider that consensus PoE

You, me, Abbi and Psyx should form a towncore fr

[Caitlin]

@WindwardAway

Imo it’s more likely towny because he could use it as an excuse to post less as scum and slip under the radar

Hm good point

[Caitlin]

Zugzwang & Lol were rlly funny earlier in the chat but I think I wanna vote one of those 2 slots