Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

VOTE: Zugzwang

I’ve seen you wolf twice, I think? And Ive seen your towngame a lot more than that. You do have towntells, and even in your wolfgame if you sort of break meta, there are some things that still aren’t present imo.

Looking through Gar, Arctic is right, they are not actually out of scumrange. My push on them did not make me scumread them more, their reaction was neutral, which is why I moved off of it - usually I’ll prefer to go check out someone else unless a push feels like it’s yielding scumead material - but it’s wrong of me to say I think they’re town now, I don’t.

I think there are two types of gamestates here: the ones where there is a wolf between Garfooled/guava, and the ones where there is not. I think executing one of them by EoD would help move forward my reads, but I also think that executing anywhere else would do the exact same thing (except maybe lol? I’d prefer not lol. And Windward isn’t the most informative in the world), because this entire game is nice and talkative and informative and such

(My thoughts on guava are that she isn’t out of her townrange - having thoughts that feel slightly off or surface-level to me is something I see a lot from t!guava. Nothing from them makes me want to particularly scumread them… but they’re also just, like, not a polarised player, so I don’t think they’re much greater than rand town, and townreading the entire rest of the game makes me want to circle back to rain.)

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you may ask me why i refuse to vote guava and the simple answer is: they already have two votes and i like keeping my options open

Arctic’s methods here make me have Arctic Thoughts but it feels so wrong to act on Arctic Thoughts on D1… so non-traditional. However the arc of “earlygame talking that makes my brain just instinctively assume he’s town even if I can’t explain why → pushes that have something that feels just a little off in a way I can’t put my finger on” feels exactly like the pattern I felt from him in Bland & Flavourless. But it’s too early to have Arctic Thoughts I think

Yeah that’s usually how I play too lol
I just don’t have the energy this time so you get low-energy Wind instead (not much windpower, hehehehe)

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Hey, @WindwardAway, did you ever explain why you’re intentionally Doing Towntells?

i wanna say gar fell off i really do but guy dissapeared for real life reasons and still popped off with some kinda wall in the middle of his hiatus

if he was mafia i expect more whining and less content
he is town to me

I agree with this actually
I’m just not sure I believe guava actually thought they’d been hammered in the first place, but I guess that’s another matter

Hey, @Arctic, what’s your read on Garfooled?

Oh I wasn’t intentionally doing those as towntells. I just meant I was purposely being cagey about my reads because I wanted to keep the discussion for later so as not to influence it.

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Going through Guava’s ISO, they feel legit stuck/frozen. All their posts are just replies to their posts during the first half of D1 with no new observations/topics/insights.

Like, if they couldn’t catch up to the thread or were too busy to analyze/make reads, they could’ve at least interacted with me — someone who defended them, no?

The way they treated Windward (voting them as “punishment” in #683/#702 and dropping them all the way down to SL in #722 without even bothering to interact or question them) feels like they’re not actually interested in reading Wind and just pushing someone who’s not pushing back.

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guavagudetama (2): PrincessAbigail, Arctic
lol (2): Luka, WindwardAway
Zugzwang (2): Caitlin, lol
WindwardAway (1): guavagudetama
Caitlin (1): Garfooled
PrincessAbigail (1): May

Not Voting (2): Psyx, Zugzwang

I guess it’s because it’s a small game but we’ve had so many three-way ties today

VOTE: guavagudetama

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We can have up to a 5-way tie. That’s possible. VOTE: windwardaway

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God fucking damnit

If you vote Caitlin we’ll have The Funny

Lel

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Anyway I’ll prob move back to guava closer to EoD, still kinda null on lol but I did like a couple of his replies earlier when we were realtiming.

I’m in a pissy mood and I haven’t eaten dinner yet so I’m gonna charge my phone (yes I’m one of those horrible phone posters) and eat and come back for eod.

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No way I’m voting my top TL even if it’s for the joke of the century lol

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