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That won’t happen if you also flip wolf

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And I lost that game. Which is why I’m so nervous about what happens if guava flips wolf. But I can assure you I know how this treatment goes over and what happens to me if the player I’m doing it to turns out to be a wolf. I promise I have the fight in me to properly defend guava if we’re partnered here

Here’s the game if you’re curious Completed: Knight Errant II: The Second Coming

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But yeah here is my explanation of this behaviour I do from the words of a Very Towny Town Flipped Town May

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Good for you or sorry that it happened, I’m not reading that

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Investigate these nuts

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Evwryone is allergic to reading

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Tbh my logic of “everyone has towntold except guava” isn’t actually great given that there are two wolves in this game

but it’s not a reason to think i’m necessarily wrong on guava, because if I am then two people are fooling me instead of one

Anyway I think I have my D1 foundation that I need to build better reads once I have a flip and I don’t know how much better an understanding of the gamestate I can gain without one. Guava is my favoured flip right now because so much of the game has revolves around them. So I’m fine with things as is

Either way, you’re a fool

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Like I’m so defensive about this partnered with guava thing cause this happens to me very very frequently I can think of many games where this exact thing has come up. That I sound partnered with a top wolfread because I ignored them. And I don’t know how to fix it, because I don’t want to waste my energy casing players if I know I won’t get better reads out of doing so… the only thing I’ll get is looking towny for casing them if they flip wolf. Which is a stupid reason to do something.

VOTE: Zugzwang

Science!

It’s not because you ignored them it’s because of the hedgy way you are handling them

This is a pointless discussion to have today anyway

you’re saying science but do you seriously expect anything to happen there’s like 3 people here

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Yes

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Or I wouldn’t do it

I straight up don’t primarily make reads in order of “most likely to be a wolf → least likely to be a wolf” on D1. It is a different vocabulary.

On D1, “townread” to me is an understanding of a player, an “I could catch this person if they are a wolf, I know what behaviours they would do, who their partners would be, I do not fear them”. That is the kind of person I treat as town.

And a wolfread is an “I don’t yet understand this person”, and those are the people I case and push. I thought that Gar had too little content for me to catch if they were wolf, so I pushed them. When their reaction to the push became evident, I decided I did not need to do any more. I think Luka has a high probability of being town, but I also think that if he is wolf, he has a high probability of snowing me, so I wanted to case him and see where it took me. That kind of thing.

On D1 and sometimes D2 my top priority is creating and sorting the puzzle pieces. On D3 forward I put them together into a wolfteam. And trying to stray from this process always leads to me playing worse. But sticking to it leads to me getting misexecuted all the fuckin time. I do not know how to fix it.

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The hedgy way I have been treating them is what I mean when I say “ignoring”. “I acknowledge this person has been scummy but as they are top wagon I cannot be bothered to express a proper read on them because it will not advance the gamestate”. That.

DISCLAIMER: this is me idly thinking about my playstyle it’s not relevant to the game as is you don’t have to read it if you don’t want

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