iirc people sussed Psyx in the NUF game I played with her specifically because she was wallposting less than she usually does as town.
Okay. I will ^^
Yes lol. At one point I loved wolfing but I became synonymous with elite wolf play and now I have a reputation to uphold. That reputation makes me uncomfortable. Its something I struggle to grasp and fight against because even when I liked wolfing I HATED lying. Before my good game I was notoriously willing to just open wolf usually to some semblance of success and I would disappear. I was part count polarized because I despise lying. Even though I liked randing wolf because the pressure was off for me personally when I wolfed I hated lying. And at some point that pressure shifted in the opposite direction. I no longer felt more pressure to prove myself as town I now felt pressure to uphold my reputation as wolf. I now felt pressure as BOTH alignments but with one I at least didn’t have to lie to my friends.
Not generally I can lie to people I don’t care about. I hate lying to people I do care about. Caitlin is obviously the player I care about most in this game since you know she’s my girlfriend.
I even joked with her that I would kill her N1.
Anyone pushing me off this kill has a valid point. I would entirely play to kill Caitlin N1.
However, I use the “don’t worry I’ll kill you tonight” joke as mafia and town a lot. I’ve never killed the player I said that too even as mafia.
And if I was mafia here I’d also have to justify why we kill Caitlin who’s pocketed by me and is being at least somewhat pushed over anyone else to my partner.
So. Short answer. Yes. Long answer. There’s a lot of nuance.
I think there’s a way mafia would try to justify a push on me here off the Caitlin kill I think they’d be pushing the post I made about N1ing Cait and I will be looking out for anyone pushing me on the back of that post.
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Me in that one game where I had fun wolfing
I’m terrible at lying in general, though lol
But I can relate
Oh yeah, I could buy this tbh. Especially since you were the second biggest wagon at eod yesterday iirc? So yeah, if you’re town, there’s the potential that wolves hoped they could snowball the momentum on you left over from yesterday.
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Wait lmao that was Abbi who posted
Sorry I’m not reading correctly lmao, ignore that
I thought that was Zug who posted that for some reason
I think the theory that a t/t alliance between Abbi/Caitlin needed to be broken apart could be correct
Sometimes wolves don’t tamper with those just to sow paranoia, but in Caitlin’s case she was top wagon for a large part of the day and then a bunch of us suddenly realized she actually was town and got off her. So she was widely townread and kind of unlikely to become a misyeet option again.
I really don’t see wolf!Abbi choosing to kill Caitlin because it’s better to just keep Caitlin alive to keep the spotlight off of Abbi. Maybe Caitlin would be perceptive enough to change her read later and that would be a reason for Abbi to kill her, but I don’t think Abbi is a wolf in the first place.
You actually look at the role list?
I sign up if someone I wanna play with is playing and ignore literally every set up detail than ask people if there’s a post cap and never worry about it again lol
Ok I finished backreading now
Sorry I got distracted by the prospect of having a bagel for breakfast in the middle of that lmao
There are very few places that serve bagels here and even fewer that have good bagels
It’s not my go-to food but I haven’t had a bagel in a looooong time
Yeah I see why Zug thinks Gar is towny for that interaction
I don’t think it’s AI necessarily but I get the reasoning at least
But if I were to take Gar off the table, then who the fuck is in the suspect pool??
I actually now think that Zug did have towny responses throughout the discussion so yeah as I said earlier, changed my mind back to thinking they’re towny
Still wary cause they’re presumably a good wolf and can likely maintain a towny tone
Maybe I should reevaluate Luka again?
When reading his posts from today I kinda flipflopped but tbh the main reason I considered pushing him was purely OMGUS lol
And he kinda retracted his push on me but I don’t think it was totally unreasonable, given how I was playing, since I knew players less familiar with me would almost definitely push me for it
Only thing is that most of his posts quoting me and calling me wolfy were literally just that: bare bones, said I was wolfy because my posts were wolfy, not a huge amount of explanation there. On the one hand, good that he didn’t overjustify it? On the other hand, it felt a bit lackluster.
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This was about Luka, in case it’s unclear
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Lol is ALWAYS town here. I’m willing to stake the game and my life on it 100 out of 100 rands
There is no logical wolfy motivation to claim. Town Lol is either
Fake claiming to provide cover and eat a Night Kill which is towny since any PR worth a shit knows not to CC here.
Or telling the truth which is most likely. This means Lol knows the mafia suspected him of being a PR. He knows the game is Mountainous and more importantly he knows that by claiming not only is he an IC that should never be reasonably pushed but a few things happen.
Town gains more info. Whereas the reasons to kill Caitlin could include PR hunting by outing here towns collective pool of wolfs decreases by 1 and now also every night kill going forwards is always readable in the purest mafia sense.
Wolf Lol is not being pushed the necessity to trade 1 for 1 in this position to kill a town PR in this set up is miniscule. Lol is a damn fine wolf who trusts his play. There’s zero reason you make this play.
I’m putting words in Lols mouth maybe I shouldn’t do that. I’m basing this off my rationale for turning champs quals 1 into mountainous by outing my PR d2. It was highly effective.
Either way if you try to justify the play from a town or wolf perspective you should realize that this is only a town play. Always.
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OK looks like zug is wolfclaiming
VOTE: Zugzwang
I don’t have a lot of time so i cant contribute much sadly. But i should be around more tommorow
i rarely do this since im bad at PR reading and unless you know what the real PR would do could lead into disaster. Dont like fancy plays either. Rest is accurate
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