Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

I could point out other things he’s said that I think are towny, but again, that’s because I’m familiar with his play. I can’t tell you whether I’d think the same posts were towny if I hadn’t played with him before because I’m biased.

…I didn’t say you were doing an RT. That was just an example/analogy of why self-meta defense is unnecessary if you were actually confident about the reasons for your actions.

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None of them were things i would ordinarily read and think are wolfy things to say for anyone other than Arctic. I just don’t know if i would find them towny or NAI for anyone else.

It wasn’t really a defense, it’s because I keep seeing people say that they won’t townread me because I have a reputation as a good player. So just for their reference, I don’t think I’ve ever made a play like I did D1 in any other games.

I think Arctic specifically recognized that

Actually, maybe this is a better towncase on Arctic. He knows my postcount isn’t a tell, but he’s also aware that I’m never cagey with my reads. I completely understand why town!Arctic would actually have to solve me off something other than meta because that’s something he’s never seen from me before. Wolf!Arctic could just as easily take the opportunity to push me specifically because he can argue that it isn’t part of my town meta.

Sorry I’m juggling two separate discussions at once but it occurred to me that that’s something I can actually explain that isn’t necessarily just meta? Or I guess it is meta because I have expectations of Arctic, but I would say in general that he’s not taking the opening for a push when he definitely could.

Mm this is better ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶I̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶’̶r̶e̶ ̶p̶a̶i̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶A̶r̶c̶t̶i̶c̶ ̶̶c̶o̶u̶g̶h̶̶

Then just flip me today. I don’t care. There’s a lot of talk of almost everyone having me in their poe but only one is voting me which I think is weird, like the wolf team is too afraid of touching me and then someone’s gonna tell them “wind was obvtown!!!” and they’ll suddenly be under pressure.

It’s one thing to forget about one point. But then your reason for being suspicious of Gar is still just… a non-reason.

fyi the other two votes on me are a joke

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As for the that D1 PR play, I’m not calling it scummy, but I don’t find it towny either. Wolf!You does have enough reason to do it.

Why do you think people would say you were obvtown when you yourself said you were outside your town meta on D1?

And if you have specific people in mind, you should just say it out loud. D2’s the time to make more solid reads and commit to them, no?

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You know, this should imply I’m town :stuck_out_tongue:

Would you say, if Arctic is scum, Wind is always his partner?

And is the reverse true?

@Zugzwang Can you share your readlist + explanations?

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Yes? Because their team just makes sense, yanno.

…I don’t want to imagine one of them being town because that means either the other is paired with you or with my townreads. And the latter just hurts me on a personal level

so… you don’t see Wind/Gar? or is Gar one of your townreads
like, to me it’s Wind/Gar that just makes sense

(continuing to write my readlist)

Gar is one of my townreads, and yep, if there’s someone most unlikely for Wind to be paired with its Gar.

Want to know something funny? Your argument that “So here, we see Wind give only one reason for her read on Gar. And that reason is that Gar’s been pushing Cait consistently.” in #2611 is actually incorrect, because if you read the 6th post you quoted (#999) you’ll see that the reason why Wind voted Gar is because of Zenon’s law/Abbi’s tell. The fact that Wind doesn’t correct you and just said they forgot is just… :sweat_smile:

I don’t think Wind and Gar are paired because I believe Wind was actually telling the truth in #2621 when they said they forgot.

If they were faking this whole thing then they would have corrected you, and if they genuinely forgot about their engagement with a wolfbuddy — how?

@Luka probably won’t like this but the more they ask me to ISO them, the more I think they’re town and thus less of a priority to ISO :sweat_smile: (ok I’ll do them next)