Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[WindwardAway]

Oh just cause of the way it was listed, nvm

[Arctic]

because everyone in it is alive except me, zug and luka, and i know i’m town lol

[Zugzwang]

In addition to the reasons of their post on Cait D1 and their lightbulb post D2, there’s this:

@Psyx

Ever since you asked me if I was sure Wind + Arctic could only be paired with each other, I’ve been thinking about what if I’m wrong on one of them.

Like, Wind is objectively wolfier than Arctic, and if Arctic’s town…then I’m thinking May could be Wind’s partner.

I have no basis for this (haven’t checked May’s ISO yet) except for the gut feeling that Arctic & May’s D1 back-and-forth isn’t T v T.

So yeah, you’re not alone.

My post was way earlier, so remembering this and having it influence their thought is hard to fake.

@Psyx

Real talk: I think my wolfgame is subpar (I’ve only ever won a wolfgame once in my life, and that was in a hydra. The best I’ve reached so far on my own is a tie, which is the last full wolfgame I linked). I love towning, especially as VT.

And also this. It’s not likely someone who has never won a wolfgame on their own suddenly plays this well as wolf.

[WindwardAway]

Big funny if that’s the team

[Luka]

@WindwardAway

I’ve seen her have that level of thread presence in D2 as scum before, but also as town, I think it’s NAI

I have nearly never seen that, and ive played a ton of games with her lol. As scum she’s much more nervous to keep her thread presence in my experience

[WindwardAway]

Wait are we talking about D2 or D1? I felt like she was very present on D1 but tapered off a bit on D2 due to irl reasons, that’s what I was referring to. The level of presence she had on D1 was very towny, on the other hand.

[WindwardAway]

Towny for her meta

[Arctic]

zug you’re saying it’s wind and abigail right? why would caitlin die if those were her 2 top town lol?

[Luka]

@Zugzwang

elaborate on the reaction to thread? I don’t see it.

SOD1 defense to cait is mostly what im reffering to ngl, but the fact that she’s this confident on her town reads is also an addition. Her reaction to me finding psy town is another example. I believe she genuinly locks and believes her town reads, meanwhile as evil she normally keeps it much more shakable in order to throw people under the buss later.

@Zugzwang

“not having a bad read list” and “voicing thoughts in a way I agree with” don’t work when I flip town.

You wont tho so

@Zugzwang

…elaborate? it’s not awful progression but compared to everyone else… no
why is this so strong

This part isnt the strong part, jst in addition.

@Zugzwang

Considering she was posting much less yesterday, and was sometimes taking breaks from the thread, it makes sense she’d have been less aggressive.

My point is as scum she posts much more; she’s much more frantic about making sure her thread position stays lol

[Arctic]

luka why are you so sure it’s zug?

[WindwardAway]

@Luka

My point is as scum she posts much more; she’s much more frantic about making sure her thread position stays lol

Ok now I’m really confused, idk why I’ve seen the exact opposite but maybe my sample size is too small (it’s also partly from FoL and party from MtS, idk if she plays slightly differently outside of FoL or what)

[WindwardAway]

Hey Arctic, are you scum? lol

[Arctic]

n-no…

[WindwardAway]

Ok, cause Luka is thinking the team is Zug/me and you’ve been saying you think both of us are town. So what’s your take on Luka’s take, or just your read on Luka overall?

[Arctic]

Idk I kinda think you are all town and wrong and it’s abigail and psyx

[Luka]

@WindwardAway

Wait are we talking about D2 or D1? I felt like she was very present on D1 but tapered off a bit on D2 due to irl reasons, that’s what I was referring to. The level of presence she had on D1 was very towny, on the other hand.

Both, in a sense? Her hard defending D1 of cait and her other town reads for example, and then dissapaiting d2 is townie from my experience with her? I can bring a few town games, but normally she’s much more uh. hesitant as scum, ie; she as scum there ik I keep using this example but wouldnt really defend cait

@Arctic

@Luka this is a pretty townside-y way to open up day 2 if you’re a villager

Shrug, not denying that.

[Arctic]

Luka is very different to the owl house game where he wolfed pretty recently

And unless they planned this thing with eliza talking about garfooled’s paranoia then idk if they immediately townclear gar like that as wolf

so Idrt he’s a wolf unless with eliza, but I don’t really think eliza is a wolf anyway

[Luka]

@Arctic

And unless they planned this thing with eliza talking about garfooled’s paranoia then idk if they immediately townclear gar like that as wolf

Eliza’s thread entrance was the most townie thing ive ever seen

[Luka]

@WindwardAway

Ok now I’m really confused, idk why I’ve seen the exact opposite but maybe my sample size is too small (it’s also partly from FoL and party from MtS, idk if she plays slightly differently outside of FoL or what)

Ive only played DM with her outside of this ftr

[WindwardAway]

It’s funny I feel like I don’t have enough meta to read anyone in this game accurately except for you, since Luka is saying the polar opposite of Abbi that I thought her meta was, and yet we both concluded independently that she’s towny (not sure how that happened, honestly). But solving people without meta, while generally more practical, is not really turning out so well for me here. Cause obviously we have two good wolves hidden somewhere and I’m too stupid to find them.