Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

I have no reason to believe you’d be confident in this game as town given the trajectory of everything so far

Fair enough. But also I wouldn’t have been mad if I was wrong, to be honest. Like, in that case wolves have played a great game and deserve to win, and town has played terribly and made that awful hammer D3.

honestly a little bit of me was hoping I was wrong

Heya, ill get to this in a bit

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Im really frustrated rgiht now, im going to vent
I play alot of games at once- and in one of the games, a TOS based community, some dude is genuinly dismissing my read on a player for being a “social read” then argues that the specified player is good because they wont do something as scum , which happens to be a social read and theyre calling it mechanical I wanna kms

And, in addition, if I fail this it would be 3 b2b town games ive failed
Thats my reasoning for not voting

fair enough

I did have an interesting thought tho ngl…
which is that, afaict, the only way T!you wins here is if I’m town.

Like. Consider the world where I’m wolf with Psyx. Even if I die today, Psyx kills Arctic, and then either:

  • Abbi snap votes you and loses
  • You vote Psyx, and Abbi votes you and you lose

Or, in the world where I’m wolves with Arctic. You vote me today, Arctic kills Psyx. Since Abbi confidently believes that Arctic/me contains exactly one wolf, you have the same scenario, just with Arctic instead of Psyx.

aaa
I agree but- I jnsut get a horible feeling if I vote abbi and I dont like it
It feels as though theyd be dissapointed in me and I hate that

ok but if they’re wolf, wouldn’t they be unimpressed with your play if you vote me?

also. you see that, because of Abbi’s tunnel on you, the only way you have a chance of winning is voting Abbi.

If she’s town and you vote wrong due to that, it’s her fault for tunneling you, is it not?

Okay, okay. Trash everything and start over again.

Wolf!Zug never kills Gar/Eliza before LYLO because he’s been consistently sussing them since D1 and I don’t think they’d willingly box themselves in like that with such restricted options.

Luka and Abbi are…unpaired? This is very unlikely wolf theatre, right?

And that means the wolf in either of them is paired with Arctic.

If this is still wrong then GG

*since D2

so
given that Abbi and I are crossing eachother now. that should mean you believe Abbi’s a wolf, right?

an older version of me would call this a derpslip but this is pretty fakeable, and mafia are often way more oblivious than I expect

You could both be wrong townies?

That logic would’ve meant there had to be a wolf in me/Windward, which is just wrong.

…it’s lylo? with locked votes?
If we’re both town, the game would have been declared over, because mafia can hammer. This is mech.

a slightly less older version of me would call this a derpslip, but I saw W!pigeon not realize this in the sorc17er lol

NUF doesn’t have the locked system so I didn’t notice tbh

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Hmm so if Abbi knew about the locked votes, that means she’s deadset on you. And town!Abbi would be more uncertain?