Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

Uh. Didn’t Arctic say that May wallposting is them regressing, and May acknowledged that they easily make wallposts as wolf?

:thinking: Unless your argument here is that town!May wants to replicate their wolfgame (instead of the other way around, which is what they were doing before).

VOTE: guava

Meh
No reason he can’t push the policy angle as a wolf too i guess

this wouldn’t even be that surprising

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This is not townie thinking ftr. Its not particularly scummy thinking either its just- weird.
I have not locked you in as scum, im saying youre being scummy af. This can be changed; you just need to start acting otwnie(which youre not)
Its your job to reply since youre actively pushing me. I apologize youre feeling burried but I dont really know how I can fix that. This argument also applies to me though; its actively frustrating when somebody pushes me and doesn’t respond to my arguments as to why im good. its not my job to convince you youre mafia, its your job to convince me that youre not. Somewhat feels LAMIST(thank you for giving me this term. I will now misuse it at every possible moment.)

I dont like the read on me thats kinda it. I also feel like the read on arctic feels weak. Its stemmed from early game but imo they’ve done enough townie things to ignore early game reads on the slot.

by the way, I don’t agree with it, but I think zug’s push on psyx for the wording thing was extremely villagery and probably quite difficult to fake that convincingly

also I didn’t say anything at the time because 3 am brain but I felt like the way Zug was interrogating May about her scumread on him felt like he was genuinely trying to gauge May’s alignment from it - it didn’t feel like he was on the backfoot, or trying to justify his behaviour as wolves often do in this dynamic, it felt like he was taking control of the situation in a way more likely to come from a villager who wants answers than a wolf who wants to talk themselves out of the situation

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Idk what that has to do with Luka but they seem. Different from owl house which is good because they were scum in owl house

Up to you, idc :person_shrugging: I’m not here to change people’s reads on me

I’m not really sure what to make of psyx themselves. don’t really want to murder them though

Reading the iso though reminded me of this
I am hyper aware of how I play town and mafia and it’s why I invoke self-meta a lot, but that doesn’t make it any less valid, because the differences between my town game and wolf game exist not because I can’t control them but because I do not think emulating how I play as a villager is conducive to winning as mafia. May already spoke about specific examples, there are others too, but I don’t really feel like going into detail right now

unfortunate read but most people who invoke the “playing badly or wolf” read are villagers because it’s a pretty harsh thing to fake or say if you don’t actually believe it (i.e. if you are a wolf), and I’m soulreading Luka as not having the personality to make this sort of post as mafia, but I could be wrong on this

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I didn’t directly say “I think this is scummy” in my original post so mb but I’ve said numerous times now that I think these two things were scummy
I didn’t vote Gar just because they hadn’t towntold yet, that’s just not true, I was just stating that because they were being townread at the time

I mean
I believe Gar is scum
Why would Gar push Caitlin here for such a weak reason if they were w/w

Oh my quote broke gagged

Might be because I’m on the receiving end, but I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around how my wording made my post “fake” so I can’t tell if it’s a valid/reasonable sus or not.

I’ll wait for a bit until OMGUS clears out from my brain before taking a closer look at their posts.

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“What’s your read on Luka btw?” was part of my initial question. Could you go through their posts and share anything that stands out to you?

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Oh I’m blind

Yeah sure

Luka started owl house with an immediate vote on Icet who was their scumbuddy
I know I’m not scum and I highly doubt Caitlin/Luka is a pair so that’s different

He also did this thing to Zorvo where he basically just said “yeah I’m ignoring this”

But in this game he’s mad at Caitlin for doing that which sorta leads me to believe they’re town

They were also spamming gifs which they haven’t been doing this game

Dont make this read please, I shouldn’t be rewarded for being a prick
@caitlin sorry, I didn’t realize that was a disrespectful thing to say in the moment.

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This is NAI it depends on my mood if I do that or not

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This does read townie ftr

Not enough to change my read; bt still does read townie