The Boys - Round 4 - Main Phase 2 - 4/7

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

its Basically “declaring what you do early” but with extra shenanigans

[Marluna]

@Marshal

1. Alliance:

Before each round, you may choose to befriend a player. If that player accepts, you can’t attack them and they cannot attack you.

It"s affect only that round, I assume?

@Marshal

If you bid on this ability, choose one of the three options below. It will act accordingly as chosen by the player, who bid the second-highest on this ability. (In case only one player bids on it, it will work according their whish)

Option 1:
When you get this ability, choose an other ability from this game, this ability copies that ability, word by word.

Option 2:
At the start of each round, choose an ability owned by an alive player,
In case of an ability with activation: if that ability is activated this round, you immediately can use the same ability.
In case of passive ability, you gain the passive until the end of the round.

Option 3:
Pay X health: Copy an ability, where X is the winning bid on the ability. You gain that ability.

Option 3 became way too similar to option 1. (You just pay exra, for basically the same power. I prefer the original here.)
It"s the gamble part, which makes this unique. Would you go for it, and gain the power others chose, or would you try it make the ability less useful for other players?

@Marshal

8. Restart?:

Once per game, all alive players besides yourself set their health to their starting value after bids. If anyone loses health because of this ability, they lose double instead.

This is fine. It really was meant to be a counterplay against power-creep, but if it was an ability with targets, the winning bid simply just could heal themself. And if it was simply only against powercreep, this could be an useless ability.

@tutuu

12. Game show Driven:

Every start of day run a Hunger game scenario with all the contestants.
https://brantsteele.net/hungergames/reaping.php
You may bet up to all your energy each day on a player to win.
If that player wins depending on how much energy your bet on them win a prize
¼ of energy – You may deal half your energy worth of damage to an enemy
1/3 of energy – You may gain half your energy worth of shield.
½ of energy – You may deal half your energy worth of damage to an enemy while also gaining half your energy worth of shield
2/3 of energy – You may copy an ability of the opponent you bet on. And use 2/3 of energy on that ability if able to (If not you get back your 2/3 energy)
¾ of energy – You may copy both all abilities of the opponent you bet on and use ¾ of energy on both abilities if able to. (If not get your energy back)
ALL YOUR ENERGY – YOU HAVE UNLOCKED THE CAPITALIST GOD OF THE HUNGER GAMES. YOU MAY FORCE THE PLAYER TO GIVE YOU A POWER UNTIL YOU FAIL A BET OR YOU DIE.

Does this ability consider dead players?
And shouldn’t the coincidence of failing a bet a bit bigger, than just not able to use the energy, you wouldn’t use anyways? Also getting back energy, when you knew the target player’s abilities on the 2/3 and 3/4 makes this ability able to constabtly copy other abilities without any cost.

@tutuu

14. Lair of Evil:

Your rolecard is public, and your private decisions are publicly made instead. In addition, anytime an opponent targets you, it instead takes effect the next round (including the cost of doing so), and their actions are revealed when they would have been revealed.

So you know exatly when, and how much energy you need to pay for shield, to avoid burnout, It’s a very cheeky way of avoiding burning from leftover shields…
Also when does your actions become public? If you just wait until the end of submission time, to submit your powers, when others can’t really react anymore, making your actions public doesn’t really mean anything anymore.

@tutuu

13. Gambling? I’m in!:

Choose an opponent. Play a game of Blackjack with you as the dealer - rules following the ones in Tess Ardent’s Casino, sidebets included. They must wager a minimum 10% of their energy, or 10 energy, whichever is higher. If the player loses, they take as much damage as their wager. If the player wins, the dealer (you) takes as much damage as the player’s payout.

What happens, if the opponent doesn’t have 10 power to bid with? (either because, they don’t have that much maximum, or all of their energy got used up? or anything else…)

[Hazardwaste]

@Marluna

Also getting back energy, when you knew the target player’s abilities on the 2/3 and 3/4 makes this ability able to constabtly copy other abilities without any cost.

… no its saying if you chose someone who didnt have any copyable abilities you only get your energy back. basically nothing happens lol.

[tutuu]

@tutuu

All of the Bad ones can be gotten rid of if their owner chooses to Burn 7 Health

Changing this to 5; trying to keep salt score low

[Marluna]

You just simply don’t choose someone without copyable abilities?

[Daeron]

@Marluna

What happens, if the opponent doesn’t have 10 power to bid with? (either because, they don’t have that much maximum, or all of their energy got used up? or anything else…)

Changing to health rather than energy

[Nerbins]

@Marshal

Big punch is Big Punch

Thank you, I’m glad someone understands

[Marshal]

i like big punch

[tutuu]

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[Ash]

@tutuu

8. Restart?:

Once per game, all alive player sets their health to their starting value (100). If anyone loses health because of this ability, they lose double instead.

Proposed idea for this:

Choose two players, record their current Health, and give each of them H Health. In two turns, if both players’ Health is greater than their Health when recorded, you gain 250/H (rounded) Health; else, you take H damage. Reset both players’ Health to the recorded value. If one of the players dies, resolve this ability immediately; that player will not be revived. You cannot use this ability again until it is finished resolving.

[Ash]

Side note for my wording: I say an ability is “activated” when it’s played and say an ability is “resolved” when all effects have been fully completed.
For example, this ability can be “activated” on Turn 3, but it won’t be “resolved” until the Health distribution/collection has occurred at the end of Turn 5 (or sooner if one of the players dies).

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

god no not call option again

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

but only if you give guys with defensive abilities 1 health

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

i would probably just bar H from being 1, has to be at least 2, that way the most you can get is 125 (which is still absurb but not as absurd as 250)

[Daeron]

automatically oppose anything which includes above elementary level math

that means no variables

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

lmao

[Ash]

I mean, if H is 1, you can counter it by attacking either of their targets for one damage.
It’s actually a fairly weak ability, especially in a seven player game.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

Yes but they basically play normal defense b/c getting reset by 1 health isn’t really that bad for them

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

idk it just seems pretty easy to abuse and if you don’t you really don’t get much value

[Ash]

Still think that it probably doesn’t affect things too badly, but you’re probably right.
I’m by nature extremely cautious about Health - Call Option was not at all supposed to become the juggernaut that it was - so I don’t want to create an ability that guarantees a Health payout.