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#4841

This maybe works if the point is that only votes and the basic NK actually matter, and all roles are meant to directly counter each other, but holy shit what even would that look like.

#4842

I feel like Triss is talking about a different host rn.

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#4843

I didnā€™t sign up for this game initially because it seemed swingy as all hell. Zone is no stranger to swingy.

#4844

Thatā€™s also announced.

#4845

yes but like

think of the setup for that to be in play

#4846

Iā€™ve asked Zone and he says Frost inheriting an ability would reset the shots. Is that still balanced, with T!Achro?

-:coffee:

#4847

Oh itā€™s swingy as shit if the town massclaims. The usual point of announcing anticlaim like that is to avoid that specific scenario.

#4848

I assumed that from the start tbh. Itā€™s more crazy as is, but it might be more balanced if it didnā€™t do that.

#4849

I will say, in the history of mafia, trying to discuss closed role setup balance with 0 flipped anti town people has never ended well.

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#4850

Which feels like it gets into always town Godfather territory.

#4851

also read frostā€™s role again lmao.

#4852

All this setup spec is nothing to me. Iā€™m going to play this like itā€™s fucking mountainous and Iā€™m going to do my best and thatā€™s all that matters

#4853

What about it?

Also why doesnā€™t the site let me post a single question mark as a reply.

#4854

Each night, you may or may not inherit a dead Town memberā€™s abilities.

You are a [Town] ā€œInvestigativeā€ Underling

Passive: My Time To Shineā€¦ Maybe

ā€¦ This could literally be a renamed vanilla

#4855

Except that could be anything from a coin flip to actual vanilla, still insane.

#4856

yes

so why the fuck are you arguing this game is balanced tightly when THAT is a role card

#4857

Because thatā€™s fine if your apparent role doesnā€™t exist.

Also because Iā€™ve designed games with Zone before and their balance sense is not literally ā€œhehe newbie designer wants to do an anime battleā€.

#4858

I have too.

Look at how other roles that activate if someone dies

ā€œyou can do this, it will be locked unless someone diesā€

now look at frostā€™s

ā€œmaybe maybe maybeā€

frost was literally a renamed vanilla i think lol

#4859

Triss, u are essentially playing a team game by urself

#4860

because I agree, him being a backup to my role who resets the shots would be kind of dumb in a vacuum and it isnt how other roles work we have seen flip