Its also probably fair to say u probably didnt realize how wolfy achro was, from my perspective and probably both tutuu and wrongboy, like him being mafia msde more sense than him being 3p, given his handling of the game and his 3p win con being almost impossible to achieve given his play, and the overall mech of it
Like achro just has too many ways to lose, as early as the end of day 2. And they can never win as claimed
I for one think that is an excellent case on kii. I am willing to bus him if you ask nicely.
@kiiruma
Also i know town u probably hates that im all over the place with u, but i want u to understand im just trying to work with everyones thoughts, and just breakdown this game
To respond to the case in a bit more depth.
To your point about tone - I have several times been misexecuted off of tone, with people thinking that I am wolf and have made things up when all I do is just say what I think.
About not voting for a wolf - I am not a player who is afraid to bus a teammate. Popcorny mafia is a recent game in which I was nominated for my scum game and in it, I was happy to bus any individual teammate except my last one, who I also ended up bussing for tone and trust as we ended up getting near to the end. You also say about me having not voted for a wolf but this is not exactly a valid reason to be throwing suspicion on me. In Stellaris FM I had made a fair few poor decisions, or what people might call a poor decision and yet I was still town.
The 3rd point about āEmotions I have presentedā is franklyā¦ nonsense. Because I have said, several times now about the fact that Iāve been frustrated that not only have I been cleared using mech and via meta and social reads. However Iām having to consider whether or not those considering pushing me out are pushing agenda or just are mistaken townies but itās making it a nightmare for me to solve since it can easily go either way. I am misread sometimes and I am an easy mis-execution target so Iāve been trying to refocus town on the confirmation that has been had because I donāt want us to fucking lose to me being mis-executed as fucking always.
The point youāre trying to make about gamestate is interesting because we do not know that āevery non-town member voted Psyā, that is not something we actually know at all. As for your point about me not dying, it is possible that mafia attempted to poison me with the anticlaim, to this I would become a 3rd person dying this cycle if they were right about me lying about being un-anticlaimable. That way even if we vote out a wolf (Achro) they could have went from (Assuming 3 mafia): 5v3v1 to 2v2v1, with a kill to come in the night. Mathematically it makes more sense for mafia to attempt to anticlaim me, rather than directly kill me in the night and we now have several reasons why a kill might not have went through that have been presented to us.
Your point on process of elimination doesnāt really help. I literally have wanted Achro dead and your point about āMe and wrongboy have both wanted Achro deadā isnāt clearing whatsoever on yourselves. Wolves can, and commonly do, bus teammates to some extent. Sultan is 3P, unless we have a hidden 3P still. Achro is probably mafia. The only reason I didnāt end up voting him yesterday was that his claim was consistant with that of what Iād expect a 3P to behave. A 3P should come forth yesterday if they were in Achroās position, so it was a consistancy that I trusted to be the case.
I do not understand how you can, in good faith continue to push the narrative that I am a wolf. Instead of listening to things that have been presented this game, youāre instead trying to find excuses that I can be a wolf. A single mis-execution probably seals the game and makes us lose. Do not fucking let it happen. Itās why I keep trying to hammer home the truth. The game is not over yet because Achro is very clearly a wolf. So letās try and fucking find the town members who weāll need to keep alive so we can clutch a victory.
Is it?
How exactly is kii confirmed? Though a mech or bean right cant see the killer right?
I think it is too, but it requires triss/kiiruma to both be wolves
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The fact that thereās an attempt to case me and itās one that is just complete bullshit actually impresses me at this point. I cannot believe what the fuck idot is trying to pull.
They have do nothing this game, being confirmed isnt something that needs to be thought about until like we are entering F3 or something. Idk im tired of seeing this arguement lead to mislynches, socially kiiruma, i could see it, but as i keep stating, given my position in the neighborhood, the wolf team has to be exactly kiiruma/triss/x
It really isnt, ignoring meta, its a really good social cade on your overal tone and play
Kii being confirmed means we have to except day 1 stuff at fave value, and the fsct that derp was killed leads to many avenues, it confirms kiiruma has like a pseudo cop check, derp was killed for being obvious town, or derp royally fucked up
But at the end of the day, derp hedged on something that should be clearing if what kiiruma is saying is true, and derp died without ever being able to talk more about it
The issue is Millium that I know Iām fucking town and Iām sick and tired and being mis-executed and misread game in and game out. I was read as a wolf due to my behaviour when it came to some other townies (Neil for example) in Stellaris.
The case doesnāt make sense if youāre considering how often Derps kept defending me and that if weāre looking at Derpsā flip, Derpsā rolecard does not have any mech on me within it. This means the mech which Derps had on me comes from me. And as I hate to point out for the 10th+ time this is not a fucking bastard game.
Im well aware, anyways i need to get back to work, ill take more later
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Please do because unfortunately it feels like youāre one of the few people whoās actually reading and trying to solve the game. And townās probably going to lose its one collective braincell by the end of day 4, so we need to try and use it while we still have access to it.
Town probably already lost lol
So you think wcum left you alive as a mislynch option
I think that scum āleft me aliveā for 2 separate reasons:
1 - Scum probably tried to guess me for the anticlaim, thinking I might be lying about being un-anticlaimable. If they are right then that adds a 3rd extra death for today and I think locks us out of the game. So attempting to kill someone whoās claimed via mech and the OPG poison rather than wasting a night kill on me overall makes more sense
2 - I am an insanely easy mis-execution this game. I voted for a towny instead of Achro because his behaviour yesterday was consistant with that of a 3P who was cornered and I fell for his honeyed words. Due to that mistake I am literally a waiting trap that can be sprung when mafia needs to.
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Anyone have non-stale meta on how Kiiruma reacts to being suspected mechanically? This seems vaaastly different, there is no frustration here, itās like he knows the people arguing suspecting him are right. Because he does. The frustration feels pretty genuine with how often Kiirumaās been pushed as town latelyā¦
Okay good explanation.