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Kiiruma, I have the role that can’t be redirected. You don’t.

If I cause you to die due to you shooting yourself…
And I die due to “Weak” at the same time.
Then wouldn’t that just result in a victory?
Unless you holster in which case I die and we might just lose idk.

oh right

i dunno

i mean feel free to visit me im town and i have no actions lol i dont care. i am a glorified VT that could only inherit beancat’s role on N1 specifically. i have the worst role in the game

-t

If Tutuu is a mafia redirector who can try and redirect my redirection then that’d be interesting but really fucking annoying

there is no double redirection. we can count on that because zone probably wants to keep his hosting privileges and his reviewer probably wants to keep their reviewer privileges

-t

Oh ok. No idea how that worked here.

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Does anyone have a clue why this is working on my phone but I can’t seem to get a connection on my laptop on any browser

Oh there it goes. Working now.

Actually Kiiruma much much better idea.

Target me and send me at Idot.

Aight starting from post 7305.


Nobody snap vote is NAI. I’ve seen mafia do the “obvious town who’s keeping others from doing dumb decisions” thing, and honestly expect the actual dumb decisions to come from town more at this point.
The game is winnable for all factions rn.
Possible pocketing of the claimed 3p.

Sultan is the only claimed 3p yes. There is nothing about the current gamestate that shows there’s only one. But go off.
Honestly if you’re exe like what was floated earlier, it’s not surprising that you focused Achromatic the entire game. Nor if you were inclined to bus them, though given I did most of the work on pulling apart each of their fake claims, not sure what you were hoping to accomplish regardless of alignment.
Your responses to Kiiruma’s concerns leave a bit to be desired in tone.


I’mma repeat what Kiiruma has been stating for a while now; They are mech confirmed by a dead town player. I refuse to sit here and try to figure out what the fuck DerpsaLot meant by how they phrased it, and I’m not going to assume that a player got things wrong in that regard, that’s rude.
This also applies to your previous claim that “Oh Frost just didn’t get it”. That is also rude to assume, disregarding circumstances.


I suppose from our theoretically town-aligned you, this team (Kiiruma, Trisscar/Crescent) would make sense, if not for the previous note about Kiiruma being mech confirmed by a dead town. As a result this PoE makes no sense whatsoever.

Millium corrected themself multiple times on the idea that I and Kiiruma were mafia. I didn’t influence them either way (beyond voicing agreements or disagreements in the neighborhood), because I like encouraging them to make their own calls on what they think is going on; meanwhile I do the same and do not expect them to solve the game on their own, because that happens far too often already.
I encourage you to go read Millium again though, with a tally counter this time, and discover how often they were considering each world.

I still do not agree with what you said, no.

eyeroll

Honestly no, the real 3p I don’t think cc’s at all, if that’s the case. I think they just wait till mafia and town tear each other apart, in specific roles.

They are not, but go off.

K. Dunno why you’d say this in thread though.

Meh, likely story. Still, Sultan is probably the only reason the game is ongoing, assuming trueclaim.

People don’t tend to type like they talk. I’m a notable and often noted exception. I assume you’re one too, if you’re pointing this out?
Hating things does tend to cause protective behavior yes, often including arm crossing. I could give real world examples, but most of them are depressing and not relevant to the game. Also don’t see your point about tone here.
People tend to repeat trains of thought that are inside their head, yes. Or at least that’s what this sounds like to me.
I also chuckled at a few of Achromatic’s posts. They were in fact occasionally funny.
We’ve yeeted precisely one wolf. Not voting for a wolf in this game isn’t exactly unlikely at this point. Though I do wonder if I’d find that you fit the same criteria till Achromatic was yeeted, if I looked for votes on you and Crescent.
ICs tend to die pretty fast, especially if they’re treated as such by the playerbase. Nearly everyone not doing so was, I assumed, a defensive measure to try to avoid that.
I’m also not going to harp on Kiiruma for not leading town. I don’t think anyone could have led this town, this game has been utterly nonsense.
Kiiruma has in fact included themself in those, in that Kiiruma has noted the passing of the rolecard. And they have in fact acted rather frustrated at you specifically, because you have been the only one to seriously push them. I suspect they’re worried that you actually ARE town, and are just tunneled to shit. Because that does in fact happen rather frequently.
Your use of actual Kiiruma phrasing and tone for the “town Kiiruma scenario”, and a sarcastic retelling to fit your narrative for “mafia Kiiruma scenario”, is noted. It’s almost like Kiiruma posted nearly the exact thing you said they would do in the case that they’re town, and has not posted anything that you said they would in the case they’re mafia.

Separating this a bit more.
Mafia was not guaranteed to win the day before yesterDay. Even if Achro had actually been 3p they would not have been guaranteed to win that Day. People were sitting there talking about how it wasn’t Xylo for that reason. Check your math.

I’m not surprised that mafia doubletapped Wrongboy. Why wouldn’t they, when you’re certain to shove Kiiruma off the cliff, and they’ve made sure that Wrongboy doesn’t have a potion, when Kiiruma might. Frankly I dunno why Wrongboy claimed that at all, they could have just said they were protected and left it at that, or asked for other instances of such.
You really need to stop assuming that people were that specific and also that wrong about mech. Also that comment at the end of this reposted case is gross.


No it IS weird that the IC survived, except that you’ve been pushing on them all game and it’d look bad if they flipped town after that.

Will note, I do not bus. But thanks for assuming, again.
…So yall keep saying that Achromatic is this god-tier player, but… you also keep trying to assign first-second level logic to their play. Interesting idea.
Don’t get me wrong this is possible; but it’s also a pretty much unproven theory, and I’m not going to try to figure out what this apparently godtier player decided to do in among all of that fluff, nostalgia, and mindgames they were posting.

Also why are you asking Kiiruma to case me and Crescent when you think they’re absolutely mafia rn?

Achro tried to kill everyone including me. Frankly I’m surprised they didn’t try harder, normally I’m LHF for the first half of the game.

Yup, probably the best way to keep the arguments going, keep alive the people who agreed once but don’t agree on anything else.

7362 Yep, that doesn’t look like a clearing bus at allllll.

7367 Note that mafia still would not have won because 3p was alive. In fact mafia should have been hunting the 3p for the last… 3 days, at least? Actively anyway.

Which would mean that they thought Psy was 3p, which is an interesting take.

I imagine Kiiruma is very much concerned in general right now yes. And i would expect them to be very careful about locktowning anyone here.

Already answered 7376

It’s indicative of being tired, but again, go off.

More twisting of words I see.

Ooh boy a nuke. Do I get a free shitty bottle in a better case to go with it?

I’ll take your word for it on Achromatic being that forward planning.

Yup, bad move on my part. Hence why I voted them as soon as I remembered to the next Day, and spent the last few Days before that tearing apart every fake claim they made, no matter how reasonable or how much everyone was sitting there lapping it up. Clearly a mafia move.

And once I got back on I realized that I had mentally combined voting Achro with conversations about Crescent, and corrected myself.
Of then everyone wanted to end the day early, which is a bad idea for town to do, so I refused to vote them till EoD. And then yall went and hammered early anyway. Ye gods people.

Addressed Millium going back and forth on this earlier. And it very much does make sense that Kiiruma and I are the same alignment, if you’re mafia.

As to “screeching to kill Crescent”. No. In fact I have not interacted with their existence more than I have had to, or when Achro first claimed alignment cop, at which point I was so deep in the weeds of mech that I stopped noticing pfps. Nice try though.

can i ask this now in case i forget to later

assuming we chop trisscar today and they flip mafia and game doesnt end due to weird parity

overnight, could you please read the ~900 or so posts that you missed? on your laptop. because there will probably be an f3 with me you and kiiruma. and i think thats important. because thats when i was imo the towniest. i relentlessly buried achro. later u posted that i wasn’t solving and i was flabbergasted. i solved a lot. the trustworthy people who voted for achro and were solving a ton townread me. millium and wrongboy. they both had me as lock town socially, even before achro flipped wolf

-t

And the redirect will “fail”, but you won’t die, thus confirming me.

I’d be targeting him regardless in that scenario.

That would kill me.
And you also claimed redirect immune. So uh…

I finished the thought in a separate post.

Better better better idea.

Attempt redirect me to yourself

I mean, I can do that?

It covers a lot of bases. I still roleblock Idot, and even if I were scum, by targeting me and forcing me onto you, it guarantees scum could not get two kills tonight to win the game with.

Doing this makes me confirmed town. We vote off Idot, and if he isn’t the last scum, I roleblock you and town still wins.

@SultanOfSlam Tbh we should all probably be directing stuff at you, as presumed kingmaker. But at this point I’m kinda just more interested in knowing if you’re even reading, cause this is kinda miserable.

Absolutely not. Kiiruma redirecting me at himself is the one play that absolutely guarantees scum cannot get two kills tonight.

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Far as I’m concerned, I’m waiting on Kiiruma to say when they’re done so that I can vote Idot and then go do things IRL.

hol up

am i missing something?

is this assuming there is no nk tonight after a wolf trisscar flip?

i. would advise against voting me. im not really following along with these mech plans. but. i. am town.

-t