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By parity in the latter case anyway

I meanā€¦ I could redirect him.

Wouldnā€™t targeting 3p get you killed?

No, it specified mafia for the ā€œWeakā€ modifier.

Also even in that case I suspect heā€™d be day acting because making an arsonist targets themselves would be a hilarious way to guarantee they lose.

I feel like an arsonist self targeting at night would be an ignite.
Tis how town of salem does it for example.

But I digress lol.
If I were to redirect Sultan itā€™d be to you since I wouldnā€™t wanna die to ā€œWeakā€

Basically it sounds like we get scum today we
unless scums is able to kill me we just flat out win in final 4.

I think that is the case yes

The problem I have is this claim feels grossly unfair to scum.

Scum is playing for final 3/4 today after Trisscar gets the axe, and Sultan is essentially claiming they wonā€™t get that final 3/4.

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It makes me think thereā€™s some lie going on but atp we donā€™t have a choice but to go for it.

We can potentially beat them both even in the worst case, but this pretty much only works if we are both town, and implicitly trust each other as town.

You already gave the one option we have. You redirect him to me and I roleblock Idot. Heā€™s already targeted me and Idot. We would then have to vote off Idot day 6 and I roleblock Sultan.

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It also only works if Sultan and Idot both have actions susceptible to roleblock and redirect.

Which annoyingly we donā€™t know if they do or not.
But alas we have to try.
Shall we just get to voting?

But know one thing: If youā€™re town, and you redirect Sultan into me, you are betting the game that I am town. Town will lose in that situation if I am scum.

Eh at this point, one of you/idot has been constantly pushing agenda (idot) whereas the other has been trying to solve and work out a mech lock if possible

Kinda i think scum basically had to kill me or sweep to win it seems

Pushing an agenda sure, but heā€™s at least trying. His line is very direct, but it also makes sense as town who believed I was town entering the day, since that would make you scum by default. His comment to kill you before Trisscar and his comment about the l:ikes" both bother me significantly though more than anything else heā€™s done. Since that comment, he stopped putting likes on any of my posts. Youā€™ve done it 5 times since. This feels like someone who actively made himself stop, which town should have no reason to do.

Anyway, the only one who hasnā€™t been actively trying is Trisscar. Their entire day can be summed up as ā€œdisruptive side comments that donā€™t do anything towards solvingā€.

Will note that at this point I think town loses no matter what. I think Sultan is probably actually an arso or something, given the weirdness of the wincon as described, and that tomorrow is just going to be kingmaker regardless of who dies.

Lemme know when to vote.

Knows everyone wants to vote them. Knows people are trying to work out the best way to solve the game.

Continues to refuse to in any way contribute to the solving or meaningfully case anyone. The only recent argument that goes unignored is the tin foil that Sultan might be arsonist. Do they actually offer anything on the topic? Any meaningful way to attempt to win this game? Nope, they just bring it up because itā€™s an easy narrative.

I mean this just makes the argument I just made for me.

I kind of agree. I thought you were town on day 2 and why i gave tou the potionā€¦ out of the 2 id think youre more town.

You and triss would hsve had to do some pretty complicated game play work to be a team and backups arenā€™t really back ups but renamed vanilla.

So if we assume this all then triss Idot is scum.

But does this make sense. Achro loves to do 2 things bus and create teammate possibilities.

Looking at this he looks to bus Triss and never actually commits to wanting to kill triss.

Also achro tried to ā€œconfirmā€ Kii using his face claim.

Lets look at achro Idot and see as well.

Let me re read idot in Kii too they may have a point

This solve isnt as cut and paste as you guys are makes it seem