The Worst Setup (21/21 Victims) | FILLED

[Ash]

Next iteration also makes the Lying Darkness a neighborizer.

[Marluna]

Can someone give me a crash course what the featured roles do? ( @Zone_Q11 ? If it’s to much here, can you tell me in pms?)

[soweli]

they’re all somewhat simple i think but also i’ve never playe with them besides the lying darkness and i had no clue about that either

it’s an unhangable unkillable miller vigilante but they can’t claim

just a stupid amount of killpower i think

Worst Role Tournament (FINALS)

Town tenacity makes otherwise replaced/modkilled players become neutral puppets controlled by the spectators so everybody gets to play :3

idk stupid & dead

and then lying darkness
see zone’s post

[soweli]

I’m assuming these roles aren’t going in verbatim

[Zone_Q11]

@soweli

and then lying darkness

Summary

Oh God Not Again (Passive) - Regardless of if you are in game or not, at the start of the game it will be announced that ‘Akodo is watching your every step, from all clans alike’ . You may use all available actions each phase.
Named not Tamed (Passive) - You receive full feedback. You are immune to death at night, occupation and redirection. You are immune to bleeding, and will be informed if attempted to be bled.

Fifth Ring (Passive) - You are permanently Tainted . When half or more of alive players are Tainted , all non-neutral players are violently decapitated.
Dangerous Dealing (Day) - Grant a player a deal for one of the following items (one item each). If they accept, they get the item and become Tainted . - Infinite Uses

• 1-shot faction check
• 1-shot vigilante
• 1-shot reveal faction publicly

Raging Nothing (Day) - Link a post from a game-related thread you have access to. If a player accurately claims in the post you linked, that player will become Tainted . This action refreshes if you successfully taint a player. - Infinite Uses
Madness of Goju (Day) - Gain permanent target immunity to a Tainted player’s actions. If they would attempt to perform an action against you, it will fail. - Infinite Uses

Kaishaku (Night) - Kill a player. - Infinite Uses
Faceless Mask (Night) - Use an ability from a player who has died, as long as that ability does not convert players. You will appear as them to investigative abilities until the start of the next night. - Infinite Uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon, and the Unseen or Cult.

Nah. You described the LFOL version. (As evident by its first passive being called “Oh God Not Again”.)

THIS is the original BS

The Lying Darkness

In Rokugan, name and history is everything. A samurai is defined by their family and clan. Their deeds only matter in the context of how they effect those ideals. The Lying Darkness strips all that away, leaving the samurai with nothing.

Neutral, Clanless, Familyless, Pathless
“Seven Thunders entered the Shadowlands. One returned.”

Named, not Tamed (Passive) - At the start of the game, it will be publicly informed that “Akodo is watching your every step, from all clans alike”.

Faceless (Passive) - To all checks made unto you from members of the Empire, you will appear as Shiba Kieru (Empire, Phoenix, Shiba, Bushi). To all checks made unto you from members of the Shadowlands, you will appear as Daigotsu Toshiro (Shadowlands, Spider, Daigotsu, Bushi).

Shadow Corruption (Passive) - You know the effects of the Shadow Corruption, who is Shadow Corrupted and the degree of Shadow Corruption they possess at all times. The Shadow Corruption has three degrees. If someone already has the Shadow Corruption, they will gain a new degree every time an even day starts.
In the first degree, nothing happens. In the second degree, all abilities and passives they have will be disabled. In the third degree, they will die, their flip will be cleaned, and they will be prevented from joining the Dead Chat. You will know what was their Faction, Clan, Family and Path.
Aditionally, you are immune to the Shadow Corruption. Finally, if someone claims at least one of the following: Ability, Family, Clan, Flavor, Path; they will be Corrupted automatically.
The only people informed of being Corrupted are the ones who start the game Corrupted.

Dangerous Deal (Day) - Make an offer to a player. “Darkness wants to embrace you. If you accept, you will be [effect]. Be careful, though, that dealing with the Nothing is dangerous business. You have 24 hours to decide if you accept it or not. Do you accept?”
The following effects are disponible. Choose one to offer:

• Immune to attacks tonight
• Cleaned from all Bleeding
• Given an alignment peek
• Given a gun
• Aware from all feedback on you for the remainder of the day.
• Shown as an Empire member to all checks tonight.

You will know whether they accepted, refused or did not answer to the request. If they accept, they will gain the benefit and one degree of the Shadow Corruption. If they refuse, they will not gain the benefit and the Shadow Corruption. If they don’t answer, they will not gain the benefit and will gain one degree of the Shadow Corruption.
If someone already has a degree of Corruption, you may give them more than one benefit in any subsequent Dangerous Deals. You can’t target anyone who is immune to the Corruption with this ability.

Direct Elimination (Night) - Select a player to kill. You can choose between one of the following effects: You can’t be seen by any trackers or watchers tonight, you will be bulletproof tonight, you can’t be roleblocked or redirectioned tonight, the target of the kill can’t be healed or protected tonight.
If they have claimed their family or flavor, you can choose two effects instead of one.

Win Conditions: Only one of those need to be completed.
- All players are dead.
- All players but you are dead.
- All alive players possess the Shadow Corruption.
- All alive players but you possess the Shadow Corruption.
- Half of the game (rounded up) has claimed at least one of the following: Ability, Family, Clan, Flavor, Path.
When you win, everyone else loses, regardless if they have already completed their win condition. The game won’t end if you are still alive. You can win even if you are dead.

[Zugzwang]

@soweli

just a stupid amount of killpower i think

it also buffs all the other wolves when it dies because it would be too weak otherwise :))))))))))))))))

[Zugzwang]

@soweli

Reaper kills players but nobody else knows for the rest of the day (good role; see arete’s post)

Reaper isn’t guaranteed
revenant is

[soweli]

oh right

[Zone_Q11]

@Amelia

nah it didnt

RAW on original not-LFOL Lying Darkness says otherwise, 'cuz that BS says:

@Zone_Q11

• Half of the game (rounded up) has claimed at least one of the following: Ability, Family, Clan, Flavor, Path.

It doesn’t say the claim has to be truthful.

[soweli]

I think that’s just pedantics tbh

[Amelia]

That is absolutely pedantics yes

The problem is a Clan claim is literally just claiming Town and that was guessable, for example

[Amelia]

(Basically just every Clan was Town except Spider Clan)

[Zone_Q11]

Say all what you want, but if these “pedantics” can result in a loss of $5,000,000, then I’d say it’s fricking important to be pedantic.

[soweli]

notably you can’t sue the mafia host for not making your role more powerful than intended

[soweli]

(I mean maybe compensation could be argued to be given but also like you can ask the host.)

[Zone_Q11]

[nightingale]

hey well, if zone is right then i dont hafta play the game because its going to end day 1 anyways
sounds like a win to me

[nightingale]

revenant doesnt look so bad
as long as you wilfully misinterpret the wincon as “kill everone who is objective is (not to survive),” i.e. jesters, if you dont do that it looks like the worst role ever

[childe]

[catbae]

Dear Lying Darkness,

My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the TRUE emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.